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by Joseph D. L.
Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:08 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was the birth story in Luke/Matthew originally referred to John the Baptist
Replies: 69
Views: 2020

Re: Was the birth story in Luke/Matthew originally referred to John the Baptist

Sorry, but this is not a political discourse. Richard Carrier has merely fixed the obvious thing: that for Paul Jesus was crucified in outer space. And he is wrong, as usual. Just as you are wrong, as usual. Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. This man came to...
by Joseph D. L.
Sat Jan 25, 2020 1:20 am
Forum: Classical Texts and History
Topic: Phoenician Atlantis
Replies: 6
Views: 5269

Re: Phoenician Atlantis

May not be related but interesting nonetheless. At least to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mcgBCWqiqg
by Joseph D. L.
Sat Jan 25, 2020 12:27 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Evolution and the Gospels
Replies: 28
Views: 562

Re: Evolution and the Gospels

But my "copy of Marcion" is Jason BeDuhn's reconstruction. Which is fine as a point of reference, but it is a stretch to call this Marcion's Gospel. The problem is that what we know about Marcion's Gospel is very late in comparison (Marcion was an early second century figure; all information about ...
by Joseph D. L.
Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:34 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Iraneus and Polycarp
Replies: 12
Views: 263

Re: Iraneus and Polycarp

Okay, this is fine for a bird's eye view, so to speak; but the connection with the legend of Augustus' death seems certain, regardless. I wasn't contesting that, only adding that there was already an association with legendary birds, fire, and resurrection prior. This is logically true only after t...
by Joseph D. L.
Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:11 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Evolution and the Gospels
Replies: 28
Views: 562

Re: Evolution and the Gospels

Irish1975 wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:56 pm
Went to check my copy of Marcion...
That is an unintentionally hilarious statement! As if this text lost to history was just laying on your nightstand. Must be next to your first edition of the Illiad!

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by Joseph D. L.
Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:04 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Evolution and the Gospels
Replies: 28
Views: 562

Re: Evolution and the Gospels

So we "know" Luke and Matthew plagiarized Mark, yet we don't "know" who Luke, Matthew, and Mark were...

Or the simpler solution... nobody plagiarized anyone and Mark priority is bs?
by Joseph D. L.
Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:00 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Iraneus and Polycarp
Replies: 12
Views: 263

Re: Iraneus and Polycarp

The dove may well link back to Jesus' baptism, agreed. But it also plays into another motif I didn't see the need to wrestle Peregrinus into this discussion [I'm honestly tired of talking about him myself. And I was writing a book about him! lol] But consider the Phoenix that would die and rise alo...
by Joseph D. L.
Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:45 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Down the rabbit hole of syncretism
Replies: 10
Views: 1138

Re: Down the rabbit hole of syncretism

I don't know who you have read or what you have read that informs you of this. Heaps and heaps! Scholarly literature on the influences of paganism on early Christianity is extensive, with some ideas more controversial than others of course. Cynicism, Stoicism, Platonism, lots more. For example, in ...
by Joseph D. L.
Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:23 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Iraneus and Polycarp
Replies: 12
Views: 263

Re: Iraneus and Polycarp

The image that is portrayed from the writings of these Church Fathers - and again we have to remember that these are just words - is that it is taken for granted that 'the Holy Spirit' is a living being which moved or transmigrated from body to body. The individual martyrs died (martyrs used in the...
by Joseph D. L.
Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:50 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Down the rabbit hole of syncretism
Replies: 10
Views: 1138

Re: Down the rabbit hole of syncretism

I'd strongly disagree there. You just need to look at any peer-reviewed publication to see that there are heaps and heaps of articles and studies into the influences on the origin and development of Christianity and Judaism. Can you explain a little more about what you mean here please? Your statem...