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Paul's theology is transhumanist. Everything human (carnal reproduction, sustenance, and death) are seen as weaknesses and sinful. Once you are reborn through Christ you are personally transformed into a new race, outside the jurisdiction of the law.

Joseph: But lets go back to ben Stada shall we? I would take the accounts of Simon of Samaria with a large pinch of salt. They're surely garbled at best. I mean, the account of Hippolytus does have Simon making midrash on the Pentateuch. That's not the way to be an arch-heretic, I mean it sounds li...

But lets go back to ben Stada shall we? Yeshu ben Stada... well, this is a man analogous to Simon Magus (supposed virgin mothers; both possessed the name of God; Stada possibly being a polemic against Stadios). But let us see also, ben Stada learned of his craft in Egypt, meaning that he would have ...

I have no doubt that Mark was revised in the presence of Matthew, so yes, parts of Mark were written after Matthew and conformed to Matthew. The real problem here is that people keep thinking of these as actually independent works that are purely preserved in their original form. NOTHING in the New...

Would Mark be the source that Celsus's Jew learned from? "But let us now return to where the Jew is introduced, speaking of the mother of Jesus, and saying that when she was pregnant she was turned out of doors by the carpenter to whom she had been betrothed, as having been guilty of adultery, ...

Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When his mother Mary had been betrothed to Joseph, before they came together she was found with child of the Holy Spirit. And Joseph her husband, being a righteous man, and not willing to make her a public example, was minded to put her away privily. ...

In all seriousness I guess I will participate in the discussion in earnest. Firstly, my thinking about Marcion and his relation with the early Christian movement tries to take into account various systems theories (information, cybernetics, world system, psychoanalysis, and so on) in order to get a ...

That, I think, is Marcionism. I am Marcion, the Man of Pontus, because we are all Marcion, Man of Pontus. Each of us attempts to recreate the world to fit how we can best economize it to suite our understanding of it so we can cope and survive. Marcion is human psychology. Marcion is human philosop...

Indeed. My entire methodology or experiment has been an attempt to disentangle how we think in the context of Christianity so as to get to a purer understanding of it. Maybe I was wrong. Could Josephus himself be doing the same thing? He is doing something similar with his account of signs? He is as...

As Peter noted, the thread isn't about trying to prove one theory or another, but rather what is people's best guess about how Marcion fits into early Christianity? I'm interested in reading the range of views people have developed based on their intuition, and not challenging anyone to 'prove' tha...