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by Martin Klatt
Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:40 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why 3 crucified
Replies: 22
Views: 412

Re: Why 3 crucified

I don't see why reading it literally would be any obstacle to come to logical conclusions about a text under review, it is a sound starting point. All my texts come from the same story from the same writer so it is not unreasonable to suppose they share the same meaning and context. If the writer di...
by Martin Klatt
Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:39 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why 3 crucified
Replies: 22
Views: 412

Re: Why 3 crucified

No silly, the centurion said: "Truly, this man was a son of god", hence he is no more. But is he a reliable witness? Let us look at Mark 9:25-26 25When Jesus saw that a crowd had come running, He rebuked the unclean spirit. “You deaf and mute spirit,” He said, “I command you to come out and never en...
by Martin Klatt
Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:26 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why 3 crucified
Replies: 22
Views: 412

Re: Why 3 crucified

To be a witness you have to speak out, there is only one speaking out and that is the centurion.
by Martin Klatt
Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:12 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why 3 crucified
Replies: 22
Views: 412

Re: Why 3 crucified

Hmm, let's apply logic here. If it is of importance how many witnesses there are to the death of Jesus, we have a problem. There is only one witness we hear of and that is the centurion. If in your logic there is a two witnesses requirement, than following that same logic one witness is no witness, ...
by Martin Klatt
Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:37 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark is first, give him his due then.
Replies: 28
Views: 6261

Re: Mark is first, give him his due then.

Let us also not forget Philemon: [10] I appeal to you for my child, Ones'imus, whose father I have become in my imprisonment. [11] (Formerly he was useless to you, but now he is indeed useful to you and to me.) [12] I am sending him back to you, sending my very heart. [13] I would have been glad to...
by Martin Klatt
Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:54 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark is first, give him his due then.
Replies: 28
Views: 6261

Re: Mark is first, give him his due then.

Do you know how this was worded exactly, I mean in Greek or Latin? Venit Onesimus a villa = Onesimus comes from his farm ( link ). Onesimus, old donkey? Onesimus = Ὀνήσιμος = "useful, profitable," a common name for a slave. Or a donkey. A beast of burden is very useful, right? I said that Onesimus ...
by Martin Klatt
Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:07 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark is first, give him his due then.
Replies: 28
Views: 6261

Re: Mark is first, give him his due then.

Ben C. Smith wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:01 am
Martin Klatt wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:43 am
Do you know how this was worded exactly, I mean in Greek or Latin?
Venit Onesimus a villa = Onesimus comes from his farm (link).
Onesimus, old donkey?
Onesimus = Ὀνήσιμος = "useful, profitable," a common name for a slave.
Or a donkey. A beast of burden is very useful, right?
by Martin Klatt
Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:43 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark is first, give him his due then.
Replies: 28
Views: 6261

Re: Mark is first, give him his due then.

Hahha,

Do you know how this was worded exactly, I mean in Greek or Latin?

Onesimus, old donkey?

It sort of reminds me of Simon of Cyrene coming from his farm. E-I-E-I-O

Good digressions Charles. Look into it.

Cheers!
by Martin Klatt
Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:39 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark is first, give him his due then.
Replies: 28
Views: 6261

Re: Mark is first, give him his due then.

Note that these are all "Do-Ables". See also Turton here ( http://www.michaelturton.com/Mark/GMark09.html#9X ): Seeing the Gospel of Mark as a performed text may also explain some other aspects of the story. For example, the writer's vague geography and lack of geographical description and detail m...
by Martin Klatt
Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:24 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark is first, give him his due then.
Replies: 28
Views: 6261

Re: Mark is first, give him his due then.

For present purposes, does the Lukan Passage fit in with your Thesis? Best to you, CW Edit Note: My obligation to a friend who encouraged me to put in EVERYTHING in my writings when something pops into my head forces me to state that "...a daughter of Abraham..." may also be a Lukan Flourish that w...