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by nightshadetwine
Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:56 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Baptism allegorized by a Crucifixion and vice versa
Replies: 1
Views: 671

Re: The Baptism allegorized by a Crucifixion and vice versa

As it was established by P. Lundberg, in the baptismal typology of the early Church Christ descending into the waters of Jordan is associated with the sun appearing for illuminating the universe. The Baptism of Christ is compared with the sun descending to the waters of the Ocean, and this theme is...
by nightshadetwine
Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:42 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A thought on the mystery of the passion of the Christ.
Replies: 39
Views: 3151

Re: A thought on the mystery of the passion of the Christ.

Justin says that the demons knew in advance the plan of God about the Son since they did make any Pagan mystery a parody of the death and resurrection of the Son. Interestingly, in Ephesians 3 Paul says: This is the reason that I Paul am a prisoner for Christ Jesus for the sake of you Gentiles— 2 f...
by nightshadetwine
Thu Oct 03, 2019 12:21 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why crucifixion?
Replies: 47
Views: 9150

Re: Why crucifixion?

This remembers Acts of Peter, 37: "It is right to mount upon the cross of Christ, who is the word stretched out, the one and only, of whom the spirit saith: For what else is Christ, but the word, the sound of God So that the word is the upright beam whereon I am crucified. And the sound is that whi...
by nightshadetwine
Thu Oct 03, 2019 12:18 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why crucifixion?
Replies: 47
Views: 9150

Re: Why crucifixion?

Good ones. I have added them. I forgot this one: Plato, Phaedo, 83d http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0170%3Atext%3DPhaedo%3Apage%3D83: Because each pleasure or pain nails it[the soul] as with a nail to the body and rivets it on and makes it corporeal, so that it...
by nightshadetwine
Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:48 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Celsus: "no God or son of God has come down or will come down"
Replies: 30
Views: 4918

Re: Celsus: "no God or son of God has come down or will come down"

From what I understand, the Platonists didn't take myths literally. So they didn't think a son of god like Heracles or Dionysus literally lived on earth.
by nightshadetwine
Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:45 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why crucifixion?
Replies: 47
Views: 9150

Re: Why crucifixion?

What are other viable options? I consider it possible that the gospels are allegories for what the "soul" goes through when incarnated into the "flesh" or physical body. Jesus representing the spiritual aspect in everyone. In the mystery cults initiates would perform a death and rebirth ritual whic...
by nightshadetwine
Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:20 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Egyptian Pharaoh identifies with a dying and rising god while being baptized
Replies: 7
Views: 1894

Re: The Egyptian Pharaoh identifies with a dying and rising god while being baptized

Thanks, but I mean the reference to the pagan source material, like "Pyramid Texts, Vol 3, Spell 11", at least when quoting that material directly. If you read the link I gave you he goes into where the translation is coming from. It's from different papyrus texts. There's also temple inscriptions ...
by nightshadetwine
Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:07 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Egyptian Pharaoh identifies with a dying and rising god while being baptized
Replies: 7
Views: 1894

Re: The Egyptian Pharaoh identifies with a dying and rising god while being baptized

Could I ask you to provide references to the ACTUAL source material being used on the pagan side, please? Otherwise, all we have are people's translations of what they think some text might be. (There's already enough arguments on translations of Biblical passages for the Christian text side, even ...
by nightshadetwine
Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:40 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Egyptian Pharaoh identifies with a dying and rising god while being baptized
Replies: 7
Views: 1894

The Egyptian Pharaoh identifies with a dying and rising god while being baptized

Romans 6:3–7 Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if ...
by nightshadetwine
Sun Sep 22, 2019 1:51 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A good website on parallels between Osiris and Jesus
Replies: 0
Views: 2175

A good website on parallels between Osiris and Jesus

If you're interested (I know some people are tired of this subject), there's a good website that goes into the parallels between Osiris and Jesus. The site is by D.N. Boswell who isn't a scholar but uses academic sources to back up what he's saying.

https://mythodoxy.wordpress.com/