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by nightshadetwine
Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:02 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Can someone help explain this passage in Pliny the Elder's "Natural History"?
Replies: 3
Views: 275

Can someone help explain this passage in Pliny the Elder's "Natural History"?

Natural History 18.221 in Latin http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/L/Roman/Texts/Pliny_the_Elder/18*.html#220 horae nunc in omni accessione aequinoctiales, non cuiuscumque die significantur —, omnesque eae differentiae fiunt in octavis partibus signorum, bruma capricorni a. d. VIII kal. Ian. fere, ...
by nightshadetwine
Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:13 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: THE DEMIURGE
Replies: 9
Views: 4315

Re: THE DEMIURGE

Thanks for the recommendation! I'll check that out. It seems the earliest texts to contain the concept of the demiurge are Egyptian. The Shabaka Stone: An Introduction(Studia Antiqua 7, no. 1, 2009) , Joshua J. Bodine The descriptions of the “relations between Ptah and Atum,” opines Iversen, “were n...
by nightshadetwine
Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:27 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What does the Crown of Thorns as symbol of exaltation imply?
Replies: 8
Views: 5397

Re: What does the Crown of Thorns as symbol of exaltation imply?

Apollo and Dionysus are rivals https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollonian_and_Dionysian This seems to be more of a modern thing though made up by philosophers. As the wikipedia article says: The Ancient Greeks did not consider the two gods to be opposites or rivals, although they were often entwined ...
by nightshadetwine
Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:51 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What does the Crown of Thorns as symbol of exaltation imply?
Replies: 8
Views: 5397

Re: What does the Crown of Thorns as symbol of exaltation imply?

Actually it seems like some of the other crowns mentioned in Christian texts may be related to the crown received in the mysteries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_crowns The Five Crowns, also known as the Five Heavenly Crowns, is a concept in Christian theology that pertains to various biblical ...
by nightshadetwine
Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:14 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What does the Crown of Thorns as symbol of exaltation imply?
Replies: 8
Views: 5397

Re: What does the Crown of Thorns as symbol of exaltation imply?

Dionysus with his crown of ivy: As you probably already know, in the mysteries of Dionysus the initiate was given a crown. I wonder if Jesus receiving the crown of thorns is related. I think in the gospels Jesus may represent the initiate who goes through a death and rebirth/resurrection ritual. Th...
by nightshadetwine
Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:56 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Baptism allegorized by a Crucifixion and vice versa
Replies: 1
Views: 4784

Re: The Baptism allegorized by a Crucifixion and vice versa

As it was established by P. Lundberg, in the baptismal typology of the early Church Christ descending into the waters of Jordan is associated with the sun appearing for illuminating the universe. The Baptism of Christ is compared with the sun descending to the waters of the Ocean, and this theme is...
by nightshadetwine
Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:42 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A thought on the mystery of the passion of the Christ.
Replies: 39
Views: 20480

Re: A thought on the mystery of the passion of the Christ.

Justin says that the demons knew in advance the plan of God about the Son since they did make any Pagan mystery a parody of the death and resurrection of the Son. Interestingly, in Ephesians 3 Paul says: This is the reason that I Paul am a prisoner for Christ Jesus for the sake of you Gentiles— 2 f...
by nightshadetwine
Thu Oct 03, 2019 12:21 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why crucifixion?
Replies: 47
Views: 27344

Re: Why crucifixion?

This remembers Acts of Peter, 37: "It is right to mount upon the cross of Christ, who is the word stretched out, the one and only, of whom the spirit saith: For what else is Christ, but the word, the sound of God So that the word is the upright beam whereon I am crucified. And the sound is that whi...
by nightshadetwine
Thu Oct 03, 2019 12:18 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why crucifixion?
Replies: 47
Views: 27344

Re: Why crucifixion?

Good ones. I have added them. I forgot this one: Plato, Phaedo, 83d http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0170%3Atext%3DPhaedo%3Apage%3D83: Because each pleasure or pain nails it[the soul] as with a nail to the body and rivets it on and makes it corporeal, so that it...