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by nightshadetwine
Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:30 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Resource for Mythicist and Response Documentation
Replies: 116
Views: 1925

Re: Resource for Mythicist and Response Documentation

1) Incorrect. I'm saying what it means to "rise" or "resurrect" is culturally specific and therefore, the fact that a myth seems similar on the surface has no bearing on whether or not it constitutes the *same* or a *parallel* myth elsewhere. Yes, the way Osiris rises or resurrects is in an Egyptia...
by nightshadetwine
Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:47 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Resource for Mythicist and Response Documentation
Replies: 116
Views: 1925

Re: Resource for Mythicist and Response Documentation

Actually, it does matter. Egyptians did not conceptualize him as living in the same way a person was. He was living in his own right, but not the same as a human on earth. It is well worth noting because this is on conflict juxtaposition to how Jesus rises. Jesus is alive in every way we are to Chr...
by nightshadetwine
Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:36 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Resource for Mythicist and Response Documentation
Replies: 116
Views: 1925

Re: Resource for Mythicist and Response Documentation

And yes, Osiris was believed to be bodily reconstituted. There is no rejecting that. But is that body alive the same way a human person is? No. It is alive in the afterlife, it is alive but represented as a green mummy, it is alive AND dead. As Frankfort pointed out, Osiris was paradoxical as both ...
by nightshadetwine
Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:04 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Resource for Mythicist and Response Documentation
Replies: 116
Views: 1925

Re: Resource for Mythicist and Response Documentation

That has never been my position. I consider Inanna, for example, to be classically "dying-rising". I don't know who you are, and I don't particularly care. If your only move is to bad mouth me on here, then it is clear you don't actually have a rational case for your position. My position (like tha...
by nightshadetwine
Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:37 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Resource for Mythicist and Response Documentation
Replies: 116
Views: 1925

Re: Resource for Mythicist and Response Documentation

Osiris was bodily, physically resurrected. I've had a run-in with this Chris Hansen character before. They seem to be one of those people that dismisses any possible connection or parallel if every detail doesn't 100% match. So in order for there to be gods that die and rise/resurrect, they all hav...
by nightshadetwine
Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:02 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Can someone help explain this passage in Pliny the Elder's "Natural History"?
Replies: 3
Views: 3586

Can someone help explain this passage in Pliny the Elder's "Natural History"?

Natural History 18.221 in Latin http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/L/Roman/Texts/Pliny_the_Elder/18*.html#220 horae nunc in omni accessione aequinoctiales, non cuiuscumque die significantur —, omnesque eae differentiae fiunt in octavis partibus signorum, bruma capricorni a. d. VIII kal. Ian. fere, ...
by nightshadetwine
Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:13 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: THE DEMIURGE
Replies: 9
Views: 7101

Re: THE DEMIURGE

Thanks for the recommendation! I'll check that out. It seems the earliest texts to contain the concept of the demiurge are Egyptian. The Shabaka Stone: An Introduction(Studia Antiqua 7, no. 1, 2009) , Joshua J. Bodine The descriptions of the “relations between Ptah and Atum,” opines Iversen, “were n...
by nightshadetwine
Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:27 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What does the Crown of Thorns as symbol of exaltation imply?
Replies: 8
Views: 7814

Re: What does the Crown of Thorns as symbol of exaltation imply?

Apollo and Dionysus are rivals https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollonian_and_Dionysian This seems to be more of a modern thing though made up by philosophers. As the wikipedia article says: The Ancient Greeks did not consider the two gods to be opposites or rivals, although they were often entwined ...
by nightshadetwine
Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:51 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What does the Crown of Thorns as symbol of exaltation imply?
Replies: 8
Views: 7814

Re: What does the Crown of Thorns as symbol of exaltation imply?

Actually it seems like some of the other crowns mentioned in Christian texts may be related to the crown received in the mysteries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_crowns The Five Crowns, also known as the Five Heavenly Crowns, is a concept in Christian theology that pertains to various biblical ...