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I cited Watson. And it is common knowledge. https://books.google.com/books?id=23NyCgAAQBAJ&pg=PA458&lpg=PA458&dq=%E2%80%9CIrenaeus+constructs+a+fourfold+gospel+out+of+passages+in+Papias+which+intend+no+such+thing.%E2%80%9D%5B&source=bl&ots=51LYG8_zHP&sig=ACfU3U3TsqutOc0CbPW6...

SA is the one making unsupported claims here: Irenaeus's rationale for the specific timing of Mark's Gospel being transmitted in Rome may be attributed to Papias's suggestion that Matthew wrote his account as an amendment to Mark's narrative. Irenaeus was undoubtedly cognizant of Papias's remarks ab...

If I get this right, you, rgprice, have written that Mark was a genius but that Matthew and Luke totally misunderstood his supposed-by-you fiction and then added to it mistakenly from other sources as if not fiction, and that Mark was originally shorter except when it was originally longer. Partly ...

I'm not entirely sure all of them are smart enough to be terrified, but they should be. I do think that there are a lot of Christian scholars who are true believers and think that by digging into all of this, that the claims of Christianity will all be vindicated. Surely that has been true for the p...

Irenaeus knows Papias. Makes reference in the Third Book and elsewhere. For the Third Book see Francis Watson. Irenaeus mentions someone named Papias, and makes a few very vague comments about him. Over 100 years later Eusebius claims to be providing a quote from Papais about the provenance of Matt...

Irenaeus's rationale for the specific timing of Mark's Gospel being transmitted in Rome may be attributed to Papias's suggestion that Matthew wrote his account as an amendment to Mark's narrative. Irenaeus was undoubtedly cognizant of Papias's remarks about the necessity to reorganize Mark's Gospel...

I'm quite confident that the "Gospel of Mark" was originally much longer and included material that is now found in Acts 16-28. Which verses (or material)? A little bit of stuff prior to Acts 16, primarily, the description of Paul's persecutions and then his vision of Jesus. Then the firs...

I don't know about Paul "being" Marcion. But really its hard to say much about any of this. I mean its not even clear if Marcion was a real person. I'm quite confident that the "Gospel of Mark" was originally much longer and included material that is now found in Acts 16-28. What...

Mark crafts a fictional scene using literary allusions, like the example of the triumphal entry. Then Matthew comes along and says, "this happened in order to fulfill scripture", which necessarily indicates that Matthew is interpreting the scene as a literal event that happened "in ac...

StephenGoranson wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 12:25 pm Not persuasive. Both draw on OT. No clear disjunction.

Every scene in the Gospel of Mark draws on the OT, so I'm not really sure what to say about that...