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by davidlau17
Tue Jan 23, 2024 4:51 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Luke 3:23 son of Joseph...
Replies: 16
Views: 902

Re: Luke 3:23 son of Joseph...

Are you saying that the Evangelion was expanded before by ebionites, and later by Catholics? I'd find it more likely that the proto-orthodox editor plagiarized an independent Ebionite genealogy, revised it slightly, and added it to the Evangelion. As for his other additions, he may have authored th...
by davidlau17
Wed Jan 17, 2024 3:02 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: So, did Marcion just make everything?
Replies: 43
Views: 3488

Re: So, did Marcion just make everything?

I realize this isn't a direct response to the question of whether Marcion was behind everything, but in my opinion, Marcion most likely dates earlier than Irenaeous, Tertullian, and Epiphanius would lead us to believe. The church fathers had reason to push him as far forward in time as possible; a h...
by davidlau17
Sun Jan 14, 2024 11:48 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: So, did Marcion just make everything?
Replies: 43
Views: 3488

Re: So, did Marcion just make everything?

Vanished wrote: Sun Jan 14, 2024 8:35 am 1 John and Revelation, apparently, were works of Marcion that were later catholicized into what we have now.
When and how did this become apparent?
by davidlau17
Sun Mar 12, 2023 4:26 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Justin Martyr's 'Dialogue of Trypho' as Rhetoric
Replies: 49
Views: 2935

Re: Justin Martyr's 'Dialogue of Trypho' as Rhetoric

It's interesting that Justin's immediate response in the Dialogue indicates that Trypho was accusing him of believing fables. "[...]But Christ--if He has indeed been born, and exists anywhere--is unknown, and does not even know Himself, and has no power until Elias come to anoint Him, and make ...
by davidlau17
Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:21 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Association of Mark with Peter and "John" with John Z
Replies: 39
Views: 2203

Re: Association of Mark with Peter and "John" with John Z

The emerging catholics selected Peter as their leading figure, perhaps based on the author of Matthew identifying Peter as the rock on which the church will be built via the words of Jesus. I wonder if one need look no further than 1 Peter for the association of Mark with Peter. 1 Peter is an appar...
by davidlau17
Fri Feb 10, 2023 5:44 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark, Aristarchus, Demas, and Luke
Replies: 13
Views: 1172

Re: Mark, Aristarchus, Demas, and Luke

Philemon is a very short letter, and quite odd. It appears to be a purely personal letter with little or no theological value. Why is it considered "authentic"? I think you answered your own question. I agree that this is a weak basis for authenticity. With its list of named figures and i...
by davidlau17
Sun Feb 05, 2023 12:54 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Hegesippus wrote that Mark was the man carrying the jar of water
Replies: 15
Views: 915

Re: Hegesippus wrote that Mark was the man carrying the jar of water

This is the passage I mean: And Mark was one of the Seventy Disciples. And he was among the servants who poured out the water which our Lord turned into wine, at the marriage of Cana in Galilee. And it was he who carried the jar of water into the house of Simon the Cyrenian, at the time of the sacr...
by davidlau17
Fri Feb 03, 2023 5:04 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Anyone have a copy of Trobisch “Who Published the New Testament?”
Replies: 28
Views: 1872

Re: Anyone have a copy of Trobisch “Who Published the New Testament?”

chapter 13 is suspected to be an interpolation because Ignatius is said to be still alive? I take all the 'is still alive' statements in these mid 2nd century documents to be likely to be true ie. I take all these people to be contemporaneous with each other; including a key Johannine author - John...
by davidlau17
Fri Feb 03, 2023 2:37 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Anyone have a copy of Trobisch “Who Published the New Testament?”
Replies: 28
Views: 1872

Re: Anyone have a copy of Trobisch “Who Published the New Testament?”

The existing early specimens of the New Testament feature a closed selection of twenty-seven writings arranged in the same sequence and displaying uniform titles with very few variants. They were produced in the form of bound manuscripts and employ a unique system to mark sacred terms, the so-calle...