Search found 392 matches

by davidmartin
Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:35 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul baptizes “twelve”
Replies: 24
Views: 290

Re: Paul baptizes “twelve”

it is false that the Clementines reject John the Baptist, sorry. Mere association with Dositheus and the Magus is not equivalent to a condemnation. yes it is, take another look and you will see i'm right it's more than mere association, it's about leaders of the very same sect John led it, after hi...
by davidmartin
Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:43 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul baptizes “twelve”
Replies: 24
Views: 290

Re: Paul baptizes “twelve”

The text itself seems to claim it has information but doesn't say more than this far from me the idea that theological claims of this kind need the possession of "information" to be advanced. I don't see our texts as appealing to "information", but only to theological views. An example: if you reje...
by davidmartin
Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:57 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Qn and GMarc Reconstruction Update
Replies: 10
Views: 176

Re: Qn and GMarc Reconstruction Update

About the hell/hades question specifically, it's very much there and strongly attested for Qn/GMarc in the parable of Dives and Lazarus. It's just that its version of a two-tiered hades is based simply and exclusively on an inversion of socio-economic order, wherein eternal punishment is reserved f...
by davidmartin
Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:02 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul baptizes “twelve”
Replies: 24
Views: 290

Re: Paul baptizes “twelve”

Giuseppe what you think of this One Gnostic group rejected John the Baptist "Neither he nor those before him (Moses), from Adam to Moses and John the Baptist, none of them knew me nor my brothers" 2nd treat. seth So then, assuming the dating around 200AD - did this Gnostic writer's knowledge of earl...
by davidmartin
Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:27 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Isn't he the "son of Mary", a code-word for Mandeans?
Replies: 26
Views: 242

Re: Isn't he the "son of Mary", a code-word for Mandeans?

...the anti-Christian polemic in Mandaean myth arose from the view that Jesus was a false messenger who worked by the lordship of the aeonic demiurge, Yahweh https://books.google.it/books?id=df1Tz5Cn8BQC&pg=PA87&lpg=PA87&dq=mandeans++Yahweh+demiurge&source=bl&ots=tQC530nEkn&sig=ACfU3U2BNYGKoymb208e...
by davidmartin
Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:14 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Isn't he the "son of Mary", a code-word for Mandeans?
Replies: 26
Views: 242

Re: Isn't he the "son of Mary", a code-word for Mandeans?

that's hard to know Giuseppe, unless you're gonna trek all the way to Iraq and live among them i don't see how anyone knows
we live in ignorance of the Mandeans
by davidmartin
Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:16 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Isn't he the "son of Mary", a code-word for Mandeans?
Replies: 26
Views: 242

Re: Isn't he the "son of Mary", a code-word for Mandeans?

Lindzbarski, what's that - an east european brand of yogurt? Mandeasm existed before Miryai - How does anyone be sure of that? Maybe she was the founder of it and set the whole thing up I never saw anywhere it's hating YHWH in their stuff But I did see dislike of the priesthood but that's not the sa...
by davidmartin
Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:35 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Isn't he the "son of Mary", a code-word for Mandeans?
Replies: 26
Views: 242

Re: Isn't he the "son of Mary", a code-word for Mandeans?

Miriai in the Mandean scrips kicks ass, she ain't no surrogate for John, she is HERSELF :)
by davidmartin
Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:11 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Matthew, Luke, & the Protevangelium of James (for David).
Replies: 16
Views: 475

Re: Matthew, Luke, & the Protevangelium of James (for David).

One overlooked aspect of the Odes is their familiarity with the saviour figure in it. It would be interesting to see if this could become a hypothesis that the author is claiming personal association with this figure. I recon it could be done and then fed into an early date argument It's interesting...
by davidmartin
Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:54 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul baptizes “twelve”
Replies: 24
Views: 290

Re: Paul baptizes “twelve”

I recently got hold of Simone Petrement’s book “A Separate God,” which postulates a Christian origin for gnosticism. He makes quite a lot of both Apollos and the church in Ephesus. I recon there was a split among the gnostics The Trimorphic Protennoia is the best evidence It was Turner who says the...