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by davidmartin
Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:31 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Luukeey! Ya Got Sum Splainin Ta Do. Did Original "Luke" Have No Resurrection Sightings?
Replies: 23
Views: 3095

Re: Luukeey! Ya Got Sum Splainin Ta Do. Did Original "Luke" Have No Resurrection Sightings?

Playing along - A Marcionite or docetic Luke would be more comfortable with the road to Emmaus appearance where he appears in another form, suggesting that to be original Let's suppose Marcion wasn't keen on the role of the women disciples, did he ever mention them? If he was a real Paul only guy, y...
by davidmartin
Fri Jun 12, 2020 3:39 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Two Squalls: Mark and John
Replies: 16
Views: 2446

Re: Two Squalls: Mark and John

this incident could have been inspired by the odes of solomon, if pre-existing the gospels, by combining their poetic narrative with the psalm 107? that psalm could be argued to have inspired the relevant odes.. but inserting the odes as a stepping stone to the gospel story could make more sense "An...
by davidmartin
Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:24 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul, Please Take the Stand --- Jim and John and a Guy Named Rock
Replies: 2
Views: 1424

Re: Paul, Please Take Stand --- Jim and John and a Guy Named Rock

ok i'll play along with this In Acts the memory of Paul defends himself from these charges Therefore I testify to you this day that I am clean from the blood of all men, for I didn't shrink from declaring to you the whole counsel of God. .. I coveted no one's silver, or gold, or clothing. You yourse...
by davidmartin
Sat May 23, 2020 1:08 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Pre-Existent Marcionite Interest in Timothy
Replies: 51
Views: 11164

Re: The Pre-Existent Marcionite Interest in Timothy

CW i believe the dualistic gnostic myth bears no relation to the original Christianity and was a gentile construct, but there was some sense where they shared some kind of distant link to the original and in their view orthodox Christianity was a mistake caused by a female. Moving over to the orthod...
by davidmartin
Wed May 20, 2020 1:20 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Discourse on the Star, and 119 AD Matthew
Replies: 3
Views: 1848

Re: Discourse on the Star, and 119 AD Matthew

i just think this shows the difficulty they had not only in Jesus's family relation but Mary's also In some sense 'Jesus' and 'Mary' are somewhat ethereal and not of this world I still think it's possible that in some earlier stratum Mary Magdalene was considered as a kind of co-partner to Jesus, as...
by davidmartin
Tue May 19, 2020 2:59 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Pre-Existent Marcionite Interest in Timothy
Replies: 51
Views: 11164

Re: The Pre-Existent Marcionite Interest in Timothy

off topic but it's clear enough from Irenaeus that the major gnostic systems were attempting to explain 'church history' in their myth they're saying there was some original, perfect church and then due to a mistake by a female leader the orthodox church sprang up. next various gnostics (Paul includ...
by davidmartin
Mon May 18, 2020 3:26 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Discourse on the Star, and 119 AD Matthew
Replies: 3
Views: 1848

Re: Discourse on the Star, and 119 AD Matthew

the 119 date would tie in with Bar Kochba though and the 'son of the star' prophecy. maybe there was widespread belief in this prophecy at the time i mean the time period does fit quite well. whats odd is here Anna is Joseph's first wife, i thought she was supposed to be Mary's mother? Maybe the men...
by davidmartin
Thu May 14, 2020 6:10 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Pre-Existent Marcionite Interest in Timothy
Replies: 51
Views: 11164

Re: The Pre-Existent Marcionite Interest in Timothy

As the discerning reader can begin to piece together, the emerging portrait of Paul in the Acts of Paul has a strong resemblance - or at least stronger resemblance to Marcionism - than what we see in 1 Timothy. Indeed, Montanism also. The Timothy pastorals could be read as opposing Prisca and Maxim...
by davidmartin
Thu May 14, 2020 5:46 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Peter in the Clementine Homilies Does Not Accept the Sacredness of the Pentateuch
Replies: 68
Views: 21755

Re: Peter in the Clementine Homilies Does Not Accept the Sacredness of the Pentateuch

lol, so it does. that is a rotten piece of translation i wasn't aware of in the NIV here
i think it's what Valentinus said "Light spoke through his mouth, and his voice brought forth life" this is not against the Torah
by davidmartin
Thu May 14, 2020 1:44 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Pre-Existent Marcionite Interest in Timothy
Replies: 51
Views: 11164

Re: The Pre-Existent Marcionite Interest in Timothy

well learnt something surprising lol first i never realised Timothy was connected to Ephesus and John secondly happened across the names of two of the apostle Philip's daughters who lived there also, Hermione and Eutychia. I thought those names were totally lost. No wonder the Montanists claimed a d...