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by davidmartin
Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:29 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The logic of the Nag Hammadi collection.
Replies: 56
Views: 25359

Re: The logic of the Nag Hammadi collection.

How about this, the NHC texts are 'world denying' which is kind of being political. If you deny the world one logical conclusion is to deny the legality of political authorities. That may get silly when a gnostic benefits from the world (ie can buy food to live). i guess i see a world denying outloo...
by davidmartin
Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:15 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Origen, the gospel of Thomas, and James the Just.
Replies: 24
Views: 17186

Re: Origen, the gospel of Thomas, and James the Just.

Gathercole is of the opinion that Thomas does have Paul stuff: https://www.academia.edu/35745929/The_I ... omas_2008_ It's quite a solid paper, I really like him. He makes good brothers in arms with Goodacre But, David - if your theory is that Thomas copied at least some of the canonicals, do you c...
by davidmartin
Mon Nov 30, 2020 2:06 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Origen, the gospel of Thomas, and James the Just.
Replies: 24
Views: 17186

Re: Origen, the gospel of Thomas, and James the Just.

Why does James the Just receive such unequaled praise in saying 12 but Thomas receive such unequaled praise in saying 13? One hypothesis is that a collection of sayings originally circulated under the authority of James later came to be circulated under the authority of Thomas instead. Perhaps sayi...
by davidmartin
Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:58 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What Happened?
Replies: 73
Views: 2746

Re: What Happened?

After all Paul is the one who seemed to emphasise the cross so much he didn't even need to relate anything Jesus said! Paul said he had a Gospel which presumably included Jesus's sayings. Jesus's sayings often appear to require a seeker to do some searching to discover what saves them Paul is stepp...
by davidmartin
Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:43 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What Happened?
Replies: 73
Views: 2746

Re: What Happened?

One thing to think about, how could Christianity work while the messiah figure was still alive? It seems clear to me that the only goal of Mark was to kill Jesus. If Paul preceded him, he wouldn't even have had a choice Christianity doesn't have any point without Jesus being sacrificed. Jesus doesn...
by davidmartin
Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:55 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: in the Gnostic tradition the women could make Jesus risen
Replies: 45
Views: 3577

Re: in the Gnostic tradition the women could make Jesus risen

On the origin could be Carpocratian and not ascetic It's interesting to contrast with Concept of Great Power / Authoritative Teaching which are ascetic yet could be Simonian I think we are seeing in these 2 texts a 100+ year divergence of the gnostic groups, where fragments of more original things c...
by davidmartin
Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:50 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What Happened?
Replies: 73
Views: 2746

Re: What Happened?

One thing to think about, how could Christianity work while the messiah figure was still alive? It's interesting that the gospels imply that it didn't really work. The disciples didn't understand him, they just followed along. There was no church It was only after the crucifixion did Pentecost occur...
by davidmartin
Thu Nov 26, 2020 4:40 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What Happened?
Replies: 73
Views: 2746

Re: What Happened?

Ben, sorry I found the writing i incorrect referred to above It is the Dialogue of Jason and Papiscus To me that's a strange name so i originally thought of Bel and the Dragon! Here it is said of Genesis "In Hebrew it is: `In the Son, God made the heaven and the earth" Interestingly the wiki article...
by davidmartin
Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:00 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What Happened?
Replies: 73
Views: 2746

Re: What Happened?

you're right Ben. It wasn't that one, forgotten it's name. Some early fathers had a low opinion of it i'm sure it had quite an unusual name
by davidmartin
Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:28 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did Morton salt Mar Saba?
Replies: 35
Views: 1095

Re: Did Morton salt Mar Saba?

i read Smiths book Jesus the Magician recently (found it for free online). it's hilarious in places very tongue in cheek the funniest part is when the magi come to visit the infant Jesus - to pay homage as their leader, chief of magi lol it mentions secret mark, but only in passing about halfway thr...