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by davidmartin
Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:25 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The mystery of the mark of the Beast, 666/616, is solved and it proves I am right about Hadrian
Replies: 39
Views: 21611

Re: The mystery of the mark of the Beast, 666/616, is solved and it proves I am right about Hadrian

I can't disagree with this more. You can say the same with the Gospels--each were relegated to marginal Christian sects, i.e. Matthew to the Ebionites, Luke to the Marcionites, John to the Nicolatians, and Mark is unspecified but tradition gives it an especial place in Alexandria and the Carpocrati...
by davidmartin
Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:06 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The mystery of the mark of the Beast, 666/616, is solved and it proves I am right about Hadrian
Replies: 39
Views: 21611

Re: The mystery of the mark of the Beast, 666/616, is solved and it proves I am right about Hadrian

One key point here... Everyone has this focus on Revelation? sure, because it got accepted into canonical scripture and is a dramatic, powerful scripture. that's obvious maybe, but also as obvious is how it evidently represents only one wing or branch of the broader early Christian movement I'd argu...
by davidmartin
Tue Feb 04, 2020 1:36 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: “Who do you say I am?” “I am not the Messiah.”
Replies: 15
Views: 6642

Re: “Who do you say I am?” “I am not the Messiah.”

Interesting, and i really should study the Hermetic literature more Can the Gnostic movement in your view define itself without having to hate YHWH? i like to see a philosophy that hangs together without having to depend on some external opponent for it's reason to exist If so what is that reason th...
by davidmartin
Tue Feb 04, 2020 2:40 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: “Who do you say I am?” “I am not the Messiah.”
Replies: 15
Views: 6642

Re: “Who do you say I am?” “I am not the Messiah.”

Giuseppe you've overlooked why the unknown God would decide of all the people on earth to pick Jews to announce himself, against their own God There's no logic to this, why not the Celts or Egyptians? Since the Jesus movement emerged in a Jewish context, it's hard to see how this is not "Jewish Spir...
by davidmartin
Fri Jan 24, 2020 3:01 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Nazarene Christianity
Replies: 25
Views: 9436

Re: Nazarene Christianity

John, i was taking the accusations made against Jesus 'the literary figure' by the authorities These folks were definitely accusing him of breaking the law - not just arguing over the oral Torah John "Hath any of the rulers believed on him, or of the Pharisees? But this multitude that knoweth not th...
by davidmartin
Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:03 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Nazarene Christianity
Replies: 25
Views: 9436

Re: Nazarene Christianity

Hi John2 I think the reason for me is that he was accused of breaking the law by the pharisees etc And he did do some stuff that appeared to go against the traditions. now you might say the traditions isn't the law, yes that's true but then it gets into the fine line between relaxing traditions yet ...
by davidmartin
Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:25 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was the birth story in Luke/Matthew originally referred to John the Baptist
Replies: 182
Views: 80154

Re: Was the birth story in Luke/Matthew originally referred to John the Baptist

Yes Nasruddin and now we can see why Paul didn't mention such a rival figure! Why would Paul mention a person who had some of the clout of Jesus and presumably to John's disciples, maybe a lot more! The Gospels also record that John still had disciples even after Jesus's ministry! You might think Jo...
by davidmartin
Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:11 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Nazarene Christianity
Replies: 25
Views: 9436

Re: Nazarene Christianity

Answer me this, if a disciple of Jesus while he was with them had asked him "Lord do those who believe in you have to follow the law?"
Would he say yes or no?
which is it...

My theory accounts for the answer to this question just very simply
by davidmartin
Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:55 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was the birth story in Luke/Matthew originally referred to John the Baptist
Replies: 182
Views: 80154

Re: Was the birth story in Luke/Matthew originally referred to John the Baptist

i doubt that Giuseppe - is that hymn Jewish or Greek in style? I bet you Ignatius of Antioch that it's not Jewish. no.. that hymn is a Pauline church concoction i'm sure of it Interestingly there are 2 early writings that fail to mention the name Jesus (The Shepherd, and the Odes) The Pillars you me...
by davidmartin
Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:18 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was the birth story in Luke/Matthew originally referred to John the Baptist
Replies: 182
Views: 80154

Re: Was the birth story in Luke/Matthew originally referred to John the Baptist

Maybe he does mention the problem... always Paul has to repeat again and again the name 'Jesus'. Maybe this is because there were other names in use by various others. This tendancy is muted in Paul, but by the time of say 1 John it's more in the open, there it clearly says some opponents say Jesus ...