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by davidmartin
Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:40 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A modern analogy to ancient Christian roots.
Replies: 10
Views: 169

Re: A modern analogy to ancient Christian roots.

GDon hahaha and that heckler is perfect, love it.
i still think Peter 'Petey' Popoff takes the crown what a charlatan. Basically anyone with an fake haircut should never be trusted, you can tell by the hair, its as if nature is providing a natural warning
by davidmartin
Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:36 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The crucifixion as form of death derived from the baptism of the god Jesus
Replies: 35
Views: 321

Re: The crucifixion as form of death derived from the baptism of the god Jesus

Yes Lattke argues all the way through the original language is Greek against Aramaic! I'd love to hear the other side of that From reading it as well you get the impression Syriac is a pretty vague language when it wants to be But to me, that Ode just sounds like it's describing a flood carrying up ...
by davidmartin
Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:11 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The crucifixion as form of death derived from the baptism of the god Jesus
Replies: 35
Views: 321

Re: The crucifixion as form of death derived from the baptism of the god Jesus

Good point Ben, I'm just going by what Lattke says here, and he doesn't make it sound like there's a choice. Harris's translation was the first after all but closer analysis is now being done is how i understand it. Unless Lattke himself and the guy he quotes i've not heard of, are wrong on this? sc...
by davidmartin
Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:49 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Ancient notices of the differences between Matthew and Mark?
Replies: 144
Views: 15854

Re: Ancient notices of the differences between Matthew and Mark?

the likely reason Paul issues that curse in such strong terms is because he himself was being condemned in those same terms by others, ie the 'Peter' / 'James' brigade who he tussles with. Whatever mods got made to Paul's writings I think they were done *before* the widespread belief in hell found i...
by davidmartin
Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:20 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Misidentifications of Pauline Gospel Material
Replies: 15
Views: 268

Re: Misidentifications of Pauline Gospel Material

what about Ephesians and Collosians, these 2 always struck me as reworked. Anything anti-marcionite in them? There's potential pro-marcionite stuff for sure
by davidmartin
Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:09 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The crucifixion as form of death derived from the baptism of the god Jesus
Replies: 35
Views: 321

Re: The crucifixion as form of death derived from the baptism of the god Jesus

There's no evidence at all the Ode refers to an Egyptian temple It's not referring literally to the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem either The best translation by Lattke is "A stream went forth and became a great and wide river it flooded everything and shattered and carried it to the temple ...
by davidmartin
Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:48 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Origen, the gospel of Thomas, and James the Just.
Replies: 4
Views: 103

Re: Origen, the gospel of Thomas, and James the Just.

probably it was in the GoT known to origen but also in some other source he trusted more, like gospel of Hebrews or Papias's collection or something like that. also James and Judas Thomas are both 'brothers'?
by davidmartin
Fri Nov 08, 2019 2:20 pm
Forum: General Religious Discussion
Topic: Are Gnostics the Village Idiots?
Replies: 5
Views: 121

Re: Are Gnostics the Village Idiots?

not sure i see the big problem, people are going to believe different things, that's life if its that bad it won't catch on that much anyway but the kind of people it attracts still will exist, again that's life basically i think we live in a market place of ideas and each one has its proponents and...
by davidmartin
Fri Nov 08, 2019 2:18 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul, the lesser Christ
Replies: 21
Views: 2435

Re: Paul, the lesser Christ

f this is the case then I would chalk it up to a later period. My interest is in the earlier tradition wherein Paul is just seen as the Paraclete. Hmm yes he might well be seen as a Paraclete in his own churches i can see what you mean by that.. he'd have been one among many though saying the same ...
by davidmartin
Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:25 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: All the references to demiurge in Mark
Replies: 49
Views: 465

Re: All the references to demiurge in Mark

so the mythicist community is split into sects, just like the old days what says you guys to this about Bar Abbas? It may also be worth while to add to the statements of Papias already given, other passages of his in which he relates some miraculous deeds, stating that he acquired the knowledge of t...