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by mlinssen
Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:22 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Immortal Key
Replies: 5
Views: 78

Re: The Immortal Key

Some of the reviewers are not impressed https://www.amazon.com.au/Immortality-Key-Secret-History-Religion-ebook/product-reviews/B0818QJHKF/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_paging_btm_next_2?ie=UTF8&reviewerType=all_reviews&pageNumber=2 The manuscript information might be interesting. Drugs and alcohol mix very badl...
by mlinssen
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:10 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Origen, the gospel of Thomas, and James the Just.
Replies: 25
Views: 17248

Re: Origen, the gospel of Thomas, and James the Just.

I'm attracted to the idea that the Jesus in Thomas was always quite anti-establishment and yet a handful of the more anti-Judaic sayings were possibly less original eg '24 prophets spoke in Israel'. The reason why i think this is I want to harmonise Thomas with the Odes of Solomon. It mostly is har...
by mlinssen
Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:01 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Trees, crosses, and outstretched hands.
Replies: 102
Views: 63075

Re: Trees, crosses, and outstretched hands.

It would be fun if we could put some hard evidence to this obvious issue, as a result of which the Church would have to replace all crucifiction images by ones with Jesus being impaled on a stake

And then, of course, the natural question arises: well where and how exactly?
by mlinssen
Mon Nov 30, 2020 12:07 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Origen, the gospel of Thomas, and James the Just.
Replies: 25
Views: 17248

Re: Origen, the gospel of Thomas, and James the Just.

The odd thing about Thomas is the lack of references to anything Pauline unless it's obscured somehow. I've played with an idea that Paul's gospel may have faded away for a while until coming back strongly again later (say around Marcion's time). It got resurrected. That might explain why a text li...
by mlinssen
Sun Nov 29, 2020 9:28 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Origen, the gospel of Thomas, and James the Just.
Replies: 25
Views: 17248

Re: Origen, the gospel of Thomas, and James the Just.

That is the pointer. A dismissal - and no one has ever, to the best of my knowledge, managed to link the awkward "heaven and earth came into being because of him" to the dodgy James the Just who isn't mentioned at all in the Synoptics For the lazy who can't be bothered to download my ATP :lol: The ...
by mlinssen
Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:54 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Origen, the gospel of Thomas, and James the Just.
Replies: 25
Views: 17248

Re: Origen, the gospel of Thomas, and James the Just.

BTW, here is the Early Writings Commentary page on that Saying: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/thomas/gospelthomas82.html# Got to love Grant and Freedman with their comment that the fire is what Jesus cast on earth. It's a different word in Thomas, and the only time that it occurs: right her...
by mlinssen
Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:41 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Origen, the gospel of Thomas, and James the Just.
Replies: 25
Views: 17248

Re: Origen, the gospel of Thomas, and James the Just.

In connection with that last possibility I note that the gospel of Thomas probably has (at least) two layers. For one thing, one of the Greek Oxyrhynchus fragments (papyrus Oxyrhynchus 1) inserts saying 77b of the Coptic version in between sayings 30 and 31. For another, the following pair of sayin...
by mlinssen
Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:22 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What Happened?
Replies: 73
Views: 2959

Re: What Happened?

One thing to think about, how could Christianity work while the messiah figure was still alive? It seems clear to me that the only goal of Mark was to kill Jesus. If Paul preceded him, he wouldn't even have had a choice Christianity doesn't have any point without Jesus being sacrificed. Jesus doesn...
by mlinssen
Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:32 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What Happened?
Replies: 73
Views: 2959

Re: What Happened?

One thing to think about, how could Christianity work while the messiah figure was still alive? It seems clear to me that the only goal of Mark was to kill Jesus. If Paul preceded him, he wouldn't even have had a choice Christianity doesn't have any point without Jesus being sacrificed. Jesus doesn...
by mlinssen
Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:21 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What Happened?
Replies: 73
Views: 2959

Re: What Happened?

Come on, Ben, what do YOU think happened? I second this call! :thumbup: Okay, well, this is my best current guess. Situated at the fuzzy juncture between the Essenes, a few baptismal sects in the Jordan valley, and the rebel groups Josephus nominates as a kind of Fourth Philosophy, there was a sect...