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by MrMacSon
Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:07 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Marcion's Gospel
Replies: 61
Views: 667

Re: Marcion's Gospel

hmm Luke appearing as a response to Marcion is an intriguing theory Several scholars have, in recent years, independent of each other, proposed Luke (+/- other gospels) appeared after Marcion (though they may not be proposing Luke was 'a response' to Marcion). Jason Beduhn was one of the first, the...
by MrMacSon
Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:47 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Sad news about prof Hurtado
Replies: 14
Views: 1112

Re: Sad news about prof Hurtado

Joseph D. L. wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:01 am
Carrier...was proven demonstrably wrong about Philo's comments on Zechariah 6 ...
In what way and by who? Citation?

(I agree Carrier does not give due credit to others)
by MrMacSon
Sat Nov 16, 2019 1:41 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The crucifixion as form of death derived from the baptism of the god Jesus
Replies: 49
Views: 19546

Re: The crucifixion as form of death derived from the baptism of the god Jesus

Even the cross can be seen as the mast of this ship. (Early church writers also make comparisons between the cross and ship-masts.) Can you provide the passages (or at least the names and works of those early church writers)? Justin Martyr, First Apology , ch. 55, Symbolism of the Cross: For consid...
by MrMacSon
Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:43 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The crucifixion as form of death derived from the baptism of the god Jesus
Replies: 49
Views: 19546

Re: The crucifixion as form of death derived from the baptism of the god Jesus

Marcion obviously was not a shipwright in the literal sense. He was the new Noah; the church, the new Ark. Even the cross can be seen as the mast of this ship. (Early church writers also make comparisons between the cross and ship-masts.) So it is Marcion who man's the helm of this church amidst th...
by MrMacSon
Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:36 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The crucifixion as form of death derived from the baptism of the god Jesus
Replies: 49
Views: 19546

Re: The crucifixion as form of death derived from the baptism of the god Jesus

Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. A good example of P...
by MrMacSon
Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:30 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The crucifixion as form of death derived from the baptism of the god Jesus
Replies: 49
Views: 19546

Re: The crucifixion as form of death derived from the baptism of the god Jesus

... Marcion obviously was not a shipwright in the literal sense. He was the new Noah; the church, the new Ark. That's an interesting proposition. Has anyone else proposed it or taken it up? Even the cross can be seen as the mast of this ship. (Early church writers also make comparisons between the ...
by MrMacSon
Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:51 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The crucifixion as form of death derived from the baptism of the god Jesus
Replies: 49
Views: 19546

Re: The crucifixion as form of death derived from the baptism of the god Jesus

I don't know what Maccoby means by 'biblical Gnostics'.... April DeConick uses the term to mean those who practiced a Gnostic spirituality specifically with respect to the Jewish or Christian scriptures, as opposed to those who practiced a Gnostic spirituality without reference to the scriptures (p...
by MrMacSon
Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:09 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The crucifixion as form of death derived from the baptism of the god Jesus
Replies: 49
Views: 19546

Re: The crucifixion as form of death derived from the baptism of the god Jesus

Moreover, re - The Jesus Legend was a gentile Gnostic thing. -- Gentiles would have included followers of Egyptian mystery religions , which were spreading and growing throughout the eastern Mediterranean in the 1st and 2nd centuries AD/CE . When I say that Gentiles caused the Jesus Legend (by mere...
by MrMacSon
Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:24 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Octavian/Augustus and the Alter of Peace
Replies: 2
Views: 2907

Re: Octavian/Augustus and the Alter of Peace

For posterity, this post on another thread on this forum by Ethan is worth noting here, - Julius Caesar (Christ 2.0) envisioned as the second coming of Cyrus Christ (Isaiah 45:1); he was cremated and descended [ascended?] into heaven in a pillar of smoke and resurrected as a comet seen in the sky , ...
by MrMacSon
Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:20 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The crucifixion as form of death derived from the baptism of the god Jesus
Replies: 49
Views: 19546

Re: The crucifixion as form of death derived from the baptism of the god Jesus

Ode 6 may refer to the destruction of the temple: Odes of Solomon 6.8 (Harris): 8 For there went forth a stream, and became a river great and broad; it swept away everything, and broke up and carried away the Temple. [ Footnote: The translation which would [come out as] “it swept everything, broke ...