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by MrMacSon
Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:52 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Give & Take amongst Second Century Authors, The 'Ascension of Isaiah', the 'Epistle of the Apostles & Marcion of Sinope
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Give & Take amongst Second Century Authors, The 'Ascension of Isaiah', the 'Epistle of the Apostles & Marcion of Sinope

Markus Vinzent, 'Give & Take amongst Second Century Authors, The 'Ascension of Isaiah', the 'Epistle of the Apostles & Marcion of Sinope' https://www.academia.edu/6881279/Give_and_Take_amongst_Second_Century_Authors_The_Ascension_of_Isaiah_the_Epistle_of_the_Apostles_and_Marcion_of_Sinope , Studia P...
by MrMacSon
Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:35 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: who invented the name Jesus?
Replies: 36
Views: 872

Re: who invented the name Jesus?

Philo philosophized about many aspects of Judaism. He, as you would know, wrote tens or hundreds of thousands of words (if not millions) about aspects of Judaism, including Genesis and various other works. He did write about an/a Iesous/Jesus ( just not the NT one ), viz., - Philo did not write abo...
by MrMacSon
Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:30 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: dating the birth stories?
Replies: 153
Views: 5097

Re: dating the birth stories?

fify , - Virtually all the Elements of some NT Jesus stories can be or are similar to some stores found in [Josephus's] writings eg. Mark 13 and Josephus' account of Jesus ben Ananias in War 6,5.3 (which Ted Weeden thinks Josephus made up from passages in Jerimiah) fify , again - There are many man...
by MrMacSon
Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:34 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: who invented the name Jesus?
Replies: 36
Views: 872

Re: who invented the name Jesus?

fwiw, Josephus, Antiquities of the Jews 3 . 49 (Whiston version) – So Moses sorted all that were fit for war into different troops, and set Iesous, the son of Nun, of the tribe of Ephraim, over them; one that was of great courage, and patient to undergo labors; of great abilities to understand, and ...
by MrMacSon
Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:28 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: who invented the name Jesus?
Replies: 36
Views: 872

Re: who invented the name Jesus?

Philo, On the Change of Names 121 - 122 a (Yonge version) – "…Moses also changes the name of Hosea into that of [in Philo, the Greek :] Iesous [Y'hosua/Yeshu'a] ; displaying by his new name the distinctive qualities of his character; for the name Hosea is interpreted, “what sort of a person is this...
by MrMacSon
Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:58 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: who invented the name Jesus?
Replies: 36
Views: 872

Re: who invented the name Jesus?

The works of Philo, a Jew, which consist of over 40 books do not mention any character called Jesus. Philo revered only the God Creator of the Jews--not men. Philo philosophized about many aspects of Judaism. He, as you would know, wrote tens or hundreds of thousands of words (if not millions) abou...
by MrMacSon
Wed Mar 03, 2021 5:52 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: dating the birth stories?
Replies: 153
Views: 5097

Re: dating the birth stories?

The stories of NT Jesus and Paul are products of stories found in the works of Josephus. Hardly, if at all. The stories of NT Jesus and Paul are mostly products of eisegesis of the LXX/Septuagint and new midrashim resulting from that eisegesis, with eisegesis of a few non-Judaic concepts thrown in:...
by MrMacSon
Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:35 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: dating the birth stories?
Replies: 153
Views: 5097

Re: dating the birth stories?

MrMacSon, Very interesting. I had to think about it. What you print is NOT the beginning of the gospel of Marcion. It is what Irenaeus WANTS us to think the beginning is. He was really not giving the original up to us. Can you follow it? It is Irenaeus who does that all. I have found out that Justi...
by MrMacSon
Wed Mar 03, 2021 1:56 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: who invented the name Jesus?
Replies: 36
Views: 872

Re: who invented the name Jesus?

the name Jesus or the NT Jesus character's name was derived from the works of Josephus. yeah, Nah. Aspects of the narrative about the NT character Iesous might have been motivated by or borrowed from accounts of Iesous characters in the works of Josephus, but not the name itself. Iesous was a commo...
by MrMacSon
Wed Mar 03, 2021 1:14 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Sleeper awake!
Replies: 24
Views: 234

Re: Sleeper awake!

Justin Martyr's First Apology 60 And 'the physiological discussion' concerning the Son of God in the Timoeus of Plato, where he says, "He placed him crosswise in the universe", 1 he 'borrowed' in like manner 'from Moses'; for in 'the writings of Moses' it is related how at that time, when the Israel...