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by MrMacSon
Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:51 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The crucifixion as form of death derived from the baptism of the god Jesus
Replies: 35
Views: 379

Re: The crucifixion as form of death derived from the baptism of the god Jesus

I don't know what Maccoby means by 'biblical Gnostics'.... April DeConick uses the term to mean those who practiced a Gnostic spirituality specifically with respect to the Jewish or Christian scriptures, as opposed to those who practiced a Gnostic spirituality without reference to the scriptures (p...
by MrMacSon
Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:09 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The crucifixion as form of death derived from the baptism of the god Jesus
Replies: 35
Views: 379

Re: The crucifixion as form of death derived from the baptism of the god Jesus

Moreover, re - The Jesus Legend was a gentile Gnostic thing. -- Gentiles would have included followers of Egyptian mystery religions , which were spreading and growing throughout the eastern Mediterranean in the 1st and 2nd centuries AD/CE . When I say that Gentiles caused the Jesus Legend (by mere...
by MrMacSon
Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:24 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Octavian/Augustus and the Alter of Peace
Replies: 2
Views: 87

Re: Octavian/Augustus and the Alter of Peace

For posterity, this post on another thread on this forum by Ethan is worth noting here, - Julius Caesar (Christ 2.0) envisioned as the second coming of Cyrus Christ (Isaiah 45:1); he was cremated and descended [ascended?] into heaven in a pillar of smoke and resurrected as a comet seen in the sky , ...
by MrMacSon
Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:20 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The crucifixion as form of death derived from the baptism of the god Jesus
Replies: 35
Views: 379

Re: The crucifixion as form of death derived from the baptism of the god Jesus

Ode 6 may refer to the destruction of the temple: Odes of Solomon 6.8 (Harris): 8 For there went forth a stream, and became a river great and broad; it swept away everything, and broke up and carried away the Temple. [ Footnote: The translation which would [come out as] “it swept everything, broke ...
by MrMacSon
Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:13 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A modern analogy to ancient Christian roots.
Replies: 12
Views: 215

Re: A modern analogy to ancient Christian roots.

... the religion [Christianity] was, right from the very beginning, already complex and multifaceted ... Yep. ... the ideological/theological baggage already in play right at the start was, IMHO, immense. When I first read that I wasn't initially sure whether baggage was the right word: it might be...
by MrMacSon
Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:03 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Octavian/Augustus and the Alter of Peace
Replies: 2
Views: 87

Octavian/Augustus and the Alter of Peace

Most of this is not Christian per se, but it raises the issue of the role of reflections of the gospel' (and other early Christian or apocryphal) writers of accounts of Augustus and the traditions around him, such as the Alter of Peace ( Ara Pacis Augustae ; dedicated to Pax, the goddess of Peace), ...
by MrMacSon
Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:12 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The crucifixion as form of death derived from the baptism of the god Jesus
Replies: 35
Views: 379

Re: The crucifixion as form of death derived from the baptism of the god Jesus

It's interesting how common names traditionally associated with high priests come up in the narrative accounts of this temple, Yeshua/Yehoshua, Jozadek, Zerubabbel, and various disputes among them, - . The Jewish Temple in the Land of Onias at Leontopolis in Egypt Near to the ancient ruins of the ro...
by MrMacSon
Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:02 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The crucifixion as form of death derived from the baptism of the god Jesus
Replies: 35
Views: 379

Re: The crucifixion as form of death derived from the baptism of the god Jesus

When did that temple close? It was destroyed in 73 C.E. on the orders of Titus or Vespasian ([Josephus War ], 7.421), who feared that it might become the focus of further revolt after the destruction of the Temple of Jerusalem in 70 C.E. -- according to https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/onias-te...
by MrMacSon
Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:17 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The crucifixion as form of death derived from the baptism of the god Jesus
Replies: 35
Views: 379

Re: The crucifixion as form of death derived from the baptism of the god Jesus

I will ignore in this thread any reference to Egypt because if the mythicism was left in the hands of the likes of Acharya, I would be a historicist. That's^ illogical, in several ways. Please don't say idiocies. Christianity is a Jewish thing, not an Egyptian thing. I don't raise questions for you...
by MrMacSon
Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:21 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Revelation 13:8 supports a death in outer space
Replies: 23
Views: 317

Re: Revelation 13:8 supports a death in outer space

Plato talks about the intersection of the ecliptic and the equinox as the point where the Logos was placed in form of chi, etc., ... . ... Jesus was executed on the “cross” of the ecliptic and the equinox , done in by fiendish Archons, Principalities and Powers (1 Cor. 2:8; Col. 2:14-15). The savin...