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by MrMacSon
Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:39 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Josephus again
Replies: 17
Views: 278

Re: Josephus again

The story of Jesus started in Ant. And was developed by ghostwriters in letters, in gospels. With invented tradition to cover the past. The main Jesus in the works of Josephus is Jesus ben Saphat/Sapphas/Sapphias. See Frans Vermeiren's 2017 book, A Chronological Revision of the Origins of Christian...
by MrMacSon
Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:48 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Is *Ev more paulinist than Mark?
Replies: 8
Views: 116

Re: Is *Ev more paulinist than Mark?

Giuseppe wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 9:46 pm If Mark is not Paulinist, then the next question is:
  • The most pertinent question might be: what text, besides Acts of the Apostles, might be as Paulinist as Mark?
by MrMacSon
Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:03 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Is *Ev more paulinist than Mark?
Replies: 8
Views: 116

Re: Is *Ev more paulinist than Mark?

Acts of the Apostles
by MrMacSon
Tue Apr 23, 2024 9:26 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Is *Ev more paulinist than Mark?
Replies: 8
Views: 116

Re: Is *Ev more paulinist than Mark?

You question, "Is *Ev more Paulinist than Mark?," bears no relationship to the title of the article, viz., "Is the Gospel of Mark Distinctly Pauline?", or to the abstract there. Why on earth ...????
by MrMacSon
Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:17 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Every time Paul mentions Mark, he also mentions Luke
Replies: 18
Views: 289

Re: Every time Paul mentions Mark, he also mentions Luke

....well, Marcion's gospel is staring us right in the face whenever we look at the synoptic gospels. It's all there, and always has been, we just don't quite know exactly which bits. But if you threw a dart at either Mark, Luke, or even Matthew, chances are you'd be hitting some part of the Evangel...
by MrMacSon
Tue Apr 23, 2024 4:33 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Monarchianism, Sabellianism, and Arianism
Replies: 6
Views: 203

Subordinationism and Arianism

Subordinationism is a doctrine wherein the Son is subordinate to the Father, not only in submission and role, but with actual ontological subordination to varying degrees. It can be trinitarian, ie. when it includes the Holy Spirit. Virtually all main orthodox theologians prior to the Arian controv...
by MrMacSon
Mon Apr 22, 2024 9:53 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Every time Paul mentions Mark, he also mentions Luke
Replies: 18
Views: 289

Re: Every time Paul mentions Mark, he also mentions Luke

Irenaeus Against Heresies III.1.1: ... [the apostles]...preaching the glad tidings of the good things [sent] from God to us... the Gospel of God. Matthew also issued a written Gospel among the Hebrews in their own dialect , while Peter and Paul were preaching at Rome, and laying the foundations of ...
by MrMacSon
Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:40 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Every time Paul mentions Mark, he also mentions Luke
Replies: 18
Views: 289

Re: Every time Paul mentions Mark, he also mentions Luke

Maybe Eusebius's Eccl. hist. III.39.16 - especially the first half - is accurate, viz. But concerning Matthew he [Papias] writes as follows: " So then Matthew wrote the oracles in the Hebrew language, and every one interpreted them as he was able ." And the same writer uses testimonies fro...
by MrMacSon
Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:32 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Every time Paul mentions Mark, he also mentions Luke
Replies: 18
Views: 289

Re: Every time Paul mentions Mark, he also mentions Luke

fwiw somewhat in relation to Eusebius's Eccl. hist . 3.39.15, attributed to Papias, but also independently; Irenaeus Against Heresies III.1.1: We have learned from none others the plan of our salvation, than from those through whom the Gospel has come down to us, which they did at one time proclaim ...
by MrMacSon
Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:56 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Every time Paul mentions Mark, he also mentions Luke
Replies: 18
Views: 289

Re: Every time Paul mentions Mark, he also mentions Luke

Alternatively, "Luke" was chosen as a pseudonym as a counter [ to] the tradition of "Mark" being an associate of Paul and involved in writing his gospel ... And "Mark" had [his] association with Paul obscured by [a subsequently narrated] association with Peter. Snap. i...