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by MrMacSon
Thu May 09, 2024 11:06 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Cerdo/Kerdo/Kerdon
Replies: 2
Views: 102

Re: Cerdo/Kerdo/Kerdon

e Tertullian Against Marcion 1 .2 The heretic of Pontus introduces two Gods, like the twin Symplegades of his own shipwreck: One whom it was impossible to deny, ie. our Creator; and one whom he will never be able to prove, ie. his own god. The unhappy man gained the first idea of his conceit from t...
by MrMacSon
Thu May 09, 2024 10:44 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Cerdo/Kerdo/Kerdon
Replies: 2
Views: 102

Cerdo/Kerdo/Kerdon

From Refutation of al Heresies book 7: (M David Litwa's book version) 36.3 ... The Holy Spirit through the Revelation of John mocked his [Nikolaos's +/- others'] disciples and exposed them as “fornicators and eaters of meat sacrificed to idols”. 199 37. 1. A certain Kerdon likewise took his starting...
by MrMacSon
Fri May 03, 2024 2:02 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'
Replies: 48
Views: 7032

Re: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'

But it is noteworthy that many of the passages in Luke which they consider to be second-hand, that is, taken direct, and often word by word, from Mark, are precisely those [absent] from Marcion for no reason, doctrinal or otherwise, that can be discovered. For instance, take the account of the Puri...
by MrMacSon
Fri May 03, 2024 1:29 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'
Replies: 48
Views: 7032

Re: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'

Loisy's response to Couchoud concerning the two pericopes of material which are not attested in Luke: Loisy - Reply - Bottom 379.png Loisy - Reply - Top 380.png Loisy's argument against Couchoud, to put it simply, is that the attestation for attributing these two pericopes to Marcion is insufficien...
by MrMacSon
Fri May 03, 2024 5:12 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'
Replies: 48
Views: 7032

Re: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'

Giuseppe is quoting from this:
Giuseppe wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 4:27 am
Couchoud's reply to the Loisy's reply is published in appendix here.

https://www.mythicistpapers.com/Couchoud_Creation_2.pdf

by MrMacSon
Fri May 03, 2024 5:06 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'
Replies: 48
Views: 7032

Re: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'

It is hardly surprising that an orthodox evangelist should have undertaken the task of re-editing, correcting and completing Marcion's gospel. The anonymous author of the Gospel which we call Luke's, alludes to his predecessors, who were fairly numerous (πολλοί) and he sets himself the task of dete...
by MrMacSon
Fri May 03, 2024 5:01 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'
Replies: 48
Views: 7032

Re: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'

More precisely, Couchoud replies to Loisy as to the Marcion/Luke question in the following way (p. 442-443): I will try to show that, to the four canonical Gospels, there must be added the Gospel of Marcion, now lost but almost completely reconstituted from quotations. M. Loisy assigns it “an inter...
by MrMacSon
Fri May 03, 2024 4:36 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'
Replies: 48
Views: 7032

Re: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'

In a passage on Martyrdom, Marcion writes: "Ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake, but in your patience possess ye your souls," but Luke gives: "... for my name's sake, but there shall not be a hair of your head perish . In your patience, etc. ..." (xxi. 17). The sente...
by MrMacSon
Fri May 03, 2024 4:34 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'
Replies: 48
Views: 7032

Re: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'

Let us turn to other examples:— Marcion records two incidents which, appearing at first sight to be analogous, are, in reality, fundamentally different. In the first a lawyer asks Jesus what must be done to obtain life, and Jesus tells him to obey the Law. By "life" however, is meant &quo...
by MrMacSon
Fri May 03, 2024 12:05 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'
Replies: 48
Views: 7032

Re: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'

II. ...... < omitted> "In order to reach an incontrovertible conclusion, one must obviously begin by comparing those parts of the gospel common to both Luke and Marcion with the sections peculiar to each. It is almost invariably the sections peculiar to Luke which come under discussion, as tho...