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by MrMacSon
Fri Apr 26, 2024 2:43 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Book 6.5.3 of Wars of the Jews.
Replies: 16
Views: 326

Re: Book 6.5.3 of Wars of the Jews.

Basically, in a nut shell, Josephus was aware of Christian-esque beliefs about logos that foretold the end of Temple sacrifice; and Josephus is rationalizing these beliefs as "signs" that pointed to the Temple destruction. Is all of this just blind speculation and a grouping around in the...
by MrMacSon
Thu Apr 25, 2024 10:39 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Book 6.5.3 of Wars of the Jews.
Replies: 16
Views: 326

Re: Book 6.5.3 of Wars of the Jews.

You have to take into consideration Michael's reasoning for thinking as he did. He had said that Christianity began as a logos-based religion after the Temple (or to replace the Temple), and Josephus was trying to rationalize their beliefs. The first proposition, that "Christianity began as a ...
by MrMacSon
Thu Apr 25, 2024 10:36 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Book 6.5.3 of Wars of the Jews.
Replies: 16
Views: 326

Re: Book 6.5.3 of Wars of the Jews.

GakuseiDon wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:36 pm I suspect that Josephus was implying that God was about to put His weight behind the Roman side, with Vespasian as God's new favorite.
  • As Josephus himself did, on both points.
by MrMacSon
Thu Apr 25, 2024 10:31 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul's use of or references to 'gospel'
Replies: 8
Views: 187

Re: Paul's use of or references to 'gospel'

cf. with Mark's use of the word "gospel". e.g. Mark 1:14 And after John had been taken into custody, Jesus went into Galilee proclaiming the gospel of God. AFAICT, Jesus never calls it "his" gospel. If the evangelist assigns ownership, it is to God. Cheers, Randy. It's noteworth...
by MrMacSon
Thu Apr 25, 2024 10:27 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul's use of or references to 'gospel'
Replies: 8
Views: 187

Re: Paul's use of or references to 'gospel'

It seems to me that all of your examples of the word Gospel from Paul are compatible with the idea that the Gospel is the message God gave Paul to spread to others Hi Ken. Yes, I agree, I was about 16% into doing that post when a few things like that 'hit' me. But I continued to look for the "...
by MrMacSon
Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:12 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Book 6.5.3 of Wars of the Jews.
Replies: 16
Views: 326

Re: Book 6.5.3 of Wars of the Jews.

A cow gave birth to a lamb? Huh. I really didn't see that one coming. :o Like you I think these little tidbits make up a potential source for early Christianity ... Michael Crouch believed that this was just how Josephus understood Christians and their wacky, zany beliefs. Who made who? Perhaps Cro...
by MrMacSon
Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:10 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Josephus again
Replies: 26
Views: 578

Re: Josephus again

I wonder if Heggesippus is a sock-puppet-literary-device of Eusebius
by MrMacSon
Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:05 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul's use of or references to 'gospel'
Replies: 8
Views: 187

Paul's use of or references to 'gospel'

Paul apparently used the term “gospel” ~60 times. He is said to use the possessive, “my/our gospel,” six times (one of which is in the pastoral 2 Tim. 2:8). He uses the definitive, “the gospel”, ~27 times. In addition, he uses terms such as “ the gospel of Christ ” (eg. Rom. 15:19) and “ gospel of G...
by MrMacSon
Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:31 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 'The Letters of Paul in their Roman Literary Context: Reassessing Apostolic Authorship'
Replies: 3
Views: 141

'The Letters of Paul in their Roman Literary Context: Reassessing Apostolic Authorship'

Nina E. Livesey, The Letters of Paul in their Roman Literary Context: Reassessing Apostolic Authorship , Cambridge University Press. available from: July 2024 (in Hardback) Book description Since the late-nineteenth century scholars have all but concluded that the Apostle Paul authored six authentic...
by MrMacSon
Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:40 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Josephus again
Replies: 26
Views: 578

Re: Josephus again

The story of Jesus started in Ant. What part/s of 'Ant.' Why do you think the story of Jesus started there? Is Jesus a historical person? It is a question to Josephus. Probably He is historical. Why is it a question " to Josephus" ? What's the answer? What would Josephus's answer be (if y...