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by spin
Sun Apr 21, 2024 10:43 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jesus' home in Capernaum?
Replies: 59
Views: 1516

Re: Jesus' home in Capernaum?

StephenGoranson wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2024 9:59 am "Etymology is no use to the discussion of the toponym, ...."
Wrong from the get-go.
I may return to this when I have time.
Please don't worry. You've only posited the most cursory responses.
by spin
Sun Apr 21, 2024 9:39 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jesus' home in Capernaum?
Replies: 59
Views: 1516

Re: Jesus' home in Capernaum?

There are spelling variants of the place name, yes? A place name can also have an etymological meaning or assumed (even if etymythological) association, yes? Etymology is no use to the discussion of the toponym, as neither of the terms reflect an underlying Hebrew source nun-tsade-resh as found in ...
by spin
Sat Apr 20, 2024 11:38 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jesus' home in Capernaum?
Replies: 59
Views: 1516

Re: Jesus' home in Capernaum?

StephenGoranson wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 11:28 am One place may have more than one spelling(s) in Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek.
That seems to be not taking note of my third point, for once again you are putting forward an idea with no apparent probative value.

Also, the peripheral nature of the use the Nazareth goes unchecked.
by spin
Sat Apr 20, 2024 11:27 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jesus' home in Capernaum?
Replies: 59
Views: 1516

Re: Jesus' home in Capernaum?

Conjecture? Yes, the assertion that Jesus may have been "known in Nazareth and Capernaum at different times" is simple conjecture. And I'm dealing with texts, not presumptions of history. "Capernaum is earlier in the tradition than either, being in all three synoptics and Q." Le...
by spin
Sat Apr 20, 2024 11:23 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jesus' home in Capernaum?
Replies: 59
Views: 1516

Re: Jesus' home in Capernaum?

Conjecture? Yes, the assertion that Jesus may have been known in Nazareth and Capernaum at different times is simple conjecture. "Capernaum is earlier in the tradition than either, being in all three synoptics and Q." Leaving aside Q, which is conjecture, That the three canonical synoptic...
by spin
Sat Apr 20, 2024 11:08 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jesus' home in Capernaum?
Replies: 59
Views: 1516

Re: Jesus' home in Capernaum?

compare Mk 6:1-2 and Mk 1:21-22, 27. They are fundamentally the same story. Which was earlier, the "hometown" version or the "Capernaum" version? I tend to agree with this random person on the internet :-) who wrote: These two sources were absorbed into the Marcan textual fabric...
by spin
Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:00 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jesus' home in Capernaum?
Replies: 59
Views: 1516

Re: Jesus' home in Capernaum?

Secret Alias wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 7:58 am They all make Ben C Smith into a martyr because of his departure from the forum. You were always number 1 to me.
Thanks. Seemed you were suggesting more than simply leaving, but no.
by spin
Sat Apr 20, 2024 9:59 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jesus' home in Capernaum?
Replies: 59
Views: 1516

Re: Jesus' home in Capernaum?

A simple possibility is that Jesus was known in Nazareth and Capernaum at different times. Conjecture doesn't help. You need to deal with the fact that Nazara is more integral to the gospel tradition than Nazareth. One can't - like some have done - guess that the difference between Nazara & Naz...
by spin
Sat Apr 20, 2024 6:50 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jesus' home in Capernaum?
Replies: 59
Views: 1516

Re: Jesus' home in Capernaum?

Secret Alias wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:08 pm spin is my Ben C Smith. They all weep for Ben like he's the dying Adonis.
Hey, what's this story about Ben C?
by spin
Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:51 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jesus' home in Capernaum?
Replies: 59
Views: 1516

Re: Jesus' home in Capernaum?

Notwithstanding Tertullian's amazing text-critical skills, writing circa 200CE renders him worthless for any historical analysis of texts that had reached their final forms. And compare Mk 6:1-2 and Mk 1:21-22, 27. They are fundamentally the same story. Which was earlier, the "hometown" ve...