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by Diogenes the Cynic
Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:58 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The X-Files: Chrēstos / Christos / Χρειστος
Replies: 448
Views: 13393

Re: The X-Files: Chrēstos / Christos / Χρειστος

Who is the patristic who said that people "call us Christianoi because of the oil we put in our hair? Origen?

It makes me wonder if "Christianoi" could have been a deliberate pun on "Chrestianoi" to mock them. "gentle ones, more like greasy ones."
by Diogenes the Cynic
Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:52 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The X-Files: Chrēstos / Christos / Χρειστος
Replies: 448
Views: 13393

Re: The X-Files: Chrēstos / Christos / Χρειστος

If this is the only occurrence of the compound term in Philo, then it seems Blavatsky was paraphrasing and expanding what Philo wrote. In the Embassy to Gaius (210), Philo writes of λόγια "θεόχρηστα", (logia "théochrésta"), i.e. sayings "delivered by God” or "vouchsafe...
by Diogenes the Cynic
Thu Dec 29, 2022 12:27 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 'Acts of Mark' | Acti Marci
Replies: 10
Views: 809

Re: 'Acts of Mark' | Acti Marci

And encountering the prophetic books, and pondering the reading, and musing on the hidden and obscure meanings of the God-breathed predictions, by divine illumination he harmoniously interpreted with excellence and perfection, ... So, from this ..., the people called this man, 'mystery speaker' [ m...
by Diogenes the Cynic
Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:20 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul and the Gospel traditions
Replies: 18
Views: 1435

Re: Paul and the Gospel traditions

I think the notion of "oral tradition" behind any of the Gospel narratives is virtually an article of faith even among a lot of critical scholars. The evidence for it is almost non-existent and the reworking of LXX material is so obvious that it was taught to me in my first New Testament ...
by Diogenes the Cynic
Wed Dec 28, 2022 9:23 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul and the Gospel traditions
Replies: 18
Views: 1435

Re: Paul and the Gospel traditions

I think the notion of "oral tradition" behind any of the Gospel narratives is virtually an article of faith even among a lot of critical scholars. The evidence for it is almost non-existent and the reworking of LXX material is so obvious that it was taught to me in my first New Testament c...
by Diogenes the Cynic
Wed Dec 28, 2022 7:25 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul and the Gospel traditions
Replies: 18
Views: 1435

Re: Paul and the Gospel traditions

There is nothing in any of these quotes that show knowledge of a historical Jesus or of any Gospel traditions. "Love your neighbor as yourself" is from Leviticus 19:18. Paul didn't write the Pastoral Epistles. For from the Lord I received what I also delivered to you: that the Lord Jesus,...
by Diogenes the Cynic
Mon Dec 26, 2022 11:28 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul and the Gospel traditions
Replies: 18
Views: 1435

Re: Paul and the Gospel traditions

There is nothing in any of these quotes that show knowledge of a historical Jesus or of any Gospel traditions. "Love your neighbor as yourself" is from Leviticus 19:18. Paul didn't write the Pastoral Epistles.
by Diogenes the Cynic
Mon Dec 26, 2022 11:16 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How much there is Saul in the epistles of Paul?
Replies: 20
Views: 1303

Re: How much there is Saul in the epistles of Paul?

King Saul specifically banished mediums and necromancers (1 Samuel 28:3) until he has the Witch of Endor brought to him. She summons the spirit of Samuel (who she calls "Elohim rising out of the earth") and Samuel tells Saul he's going to lose to the Philistines because he refused to slaug...
by Diogenes the Cynic
Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:34 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: List of arguments to date Mark after Hadrian
Replies: 58
Views: 38743

Re: 4th CE for Matthew given the earliest LXX, and circumstantial evidence from papyri

Irenaeus is the first to use the names Maybe Irenaeus is our earliest witness to the existence of the canonical gospels. Is that possible? (Keeping in mind what I said above about the various claims that Justin, for example, quotes or refers to sayings and passages from them.) Precisely that, Neil,...
by Diogenes the Cynic
Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:28 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: List of arguments to date Mark after Hadrian
Replies: 58
Views: 38743

Re: List of arguments to date Mark after Hadrian

On the other hand, re the name of the Gospel -- someone (was it Markus Vinzent?) pointed out that the gospels have always been known by the names we assign to them so it seems reasonable to think that they were assigned those titles/names from their beginning. But I'm not going to bet my house on i...