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by Chrissy Hansen
Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:58 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Do all Roads Lead to Eusebius: Antiquities 20.200
Replies: 14
Views: 454

Re: Do all Roads Lead to Eusebius: Antiquities 20.200

That still leaves us with the questions of a) why Origen would have thought the ‘called Christ’ phrase was in Josephus, and b) why Eusebius would have bothered to add it. I mean, even if he was puzzled by not finding the phrase Origen had cited, it seems unlikely that he’d have reacted by assuming ...
by Chrissy Hansen
Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:45 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Do all Roads Lead to Eusebius: Antiquities 20.200
Replies: 14
Views: 454

Re: Do all Roads Lead to Eusebius: Antiquities 20.200

Chris Hansen has been keeping a list of others and could tell you more (and I would identify myself as a minimalist, not a mythicist; I do not deny the existence of an historical Jesus but think we know extremely little about him). I also would identify as a minimalist (not mythicist). For those wo...
by Chrissy Hansen
Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:08 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article
Replies: 122
Views: 5987

Re: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article

I am resting my case specifically on how Josephus uses the two forms of adelphonymics without any apparent exception that I have yet found I understand what you're doing on that level, but you haven't answered the question of how you know that the distinctions that you're making are necessary in yo...
by Chrissy Hansen
Mon Apr 22, 2024 9:37 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article
Replies: 122
Views: 5987

Re: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article

By ‘spontaneously’, I mean using the phrase where he wasn’t quoting it from someone else. In other words, the quote from Matthew isn’t Origen coming up with it ‘spontaneously’; he’s quoting someone else. Out of all the places in which Origen refers to Jesus, the only places in which he uses ‘called...
by Chrissy Hansen
Mon Apr 22, 2024 9:25 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article
Replies: 122
Views: 5987

Re: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article

I discussed them above (samples 1 and 2). I went through every adelphonymic I could find in Josephus' extant work and observed how he used them. In the case of (1) he introduces a new character (x), and identifies a relationship to some figure (Y), which can be unknown. In cases where the related br...
by Chrissy Hansen
Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:18 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article
Replies: 122
Views: 5987

Re: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article

Well, unless we can speculate a very convincing reason, I think Occam’s razor still cuts through to the much simpler explanation that the passage actually was original to Josephus I think that you have not read my confession here , where I have given up to doubt about the authenticity of the Baptis...
by Chrissy Hansen
Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:44 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article
Replies: 122
Views: 5987

Re: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article

Well, unless we can speculate a very convincing reason, I think Occam’s razor still cuts through to the much simpler explanation that the passage actually was original to Josephus I think that you have not read my confession here , where I have given up to doubt about the authenticity of the Baptis...
by Chrissy Hansen
Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:01 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Litwa on Marcion as ancient Mythicist
Replies: 46
Views: 909

Re: Litwa on Marcion as ancient Mythicist

Litwa: I’m on record as saying that ancient people never argued that Jesus didn’t exist. And I stand by this point. But the Talmud placed Jesus under Janneus. The Jesus lived under Pilate was a myth, according to that Talmudic tradition. Peter Schaefer has discussed this at length, but it was also ...
by Chrissy Hansen
Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:27 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Do all Roads Lead to Eusebius: Antiquities 20.200
Replies: 14
Views: 454

Re: Do all Roads Lead to Eusebius: Antiquities 20.200

So I found a few more references, all of which also go back to Eusebius (directly or via intermediary): Suda, s.v. Ἰώσηπος, iota 503 here is quoting from the Greek translation (verbatim) of Jerome's De Viris Illustribus 13. Jerome, Adversus Jovinianum 1.39 [PG 23.277–78] (reliant on either Eusebius ...
by Chrissy Hansen
Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:58 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Do all Roads Lead to Eusebius: Antiquities 20.200
Replies: 14
Views: 454

Do all Roads Lead to Eusebius: Antiquities 20.200

So, I have been conducting some research on the James 20.200 passage (which I am working on a paper about arguing it is inauthentic). One thing I decided to do (because I can't find anyone else who has done it) is trace all the different iterations of the "brother of Jesus, called Christ" ...