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by billd89
Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:48 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 1937: Eric Voegelin, on Gnosis (modernist interpretation)
Replies: 0
Views: 107

1937: Eric Voegelin, on Gnosis (modernist interpretation)

Eric Voegelin on The New Science of Politics ,11 November 1953. Then there is the question of Gnosis. You attribute to me the "readiness" to identify all sorts of ideas as Gnostic, as if that were my oddity. Well, if you attribute to me, as is frequently done, the great discovery of the problem of m...
by billd89
Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:00 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Books of the Savior & crucifixion
Replies: 3
Views: 4189

Pistis Sophia, c.300 AD

I'm curious about various theories regarding this work and its first audience. I've quickly reviewed the somewhat scant scholarship (Pistis Sophia has had relatively little serious attention; Books of Jeu even less!) I suppose its 'New Age' literature of Late Antiquity: that is, it was produced as a...
by billd89
Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:09 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: The Books of Enoch
Replies: 7
Views: 17443

Re: The Books of Enoch

PhD reference, mentioned previously, Link , p.132. 1 Enoch consists of a collection of writings composed between the fourth century BCE and the turn of the Common Era. In the second and first centuries BCE, at least eleven manuscripts were produced for the separatist Essene community of Qumran and l...
by billd89
Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:43 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dating the Lord's Prayer
Replies: 13
Views: 453

Dating the Lord's Prayer

Given the general consensus of a First C. AD date (c.95 AD) for the inception of the Didache, is it reasonable to assume the 'Pater Noster' in its earlier Greek or Hebrew form probably dates a generation or two earlier? Older? I dont buy late dater arguments that everything appears at the last minut...
by billd89
Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:03 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 2 Cor 12:13-18 / Gentile mission vs raising money
Replies: 1
Views: 104

Re: 2 Cor 12:13-18 ... Scheming Ploys & Guilt Tripping

This is what Paul said, according to 2 Cor 12:13-18 13In what way were you inferior to the other churches, except that I was not a burden to you? Forgive me this wrong! He made other Churches pay; the Corinthians didn't. 'Forgive me for not billing -sorry: tithe-ing- you like all the others.' Switc...
by billd89
Sat Apr 03, 2021 12:11 pm
Forum: Classical Texts and History
Topic: the Sethians
Replies: 9
Views: 11008

Re: Sethians, before the Gnostic 2nd C AD

As an aside: according to other writings by Josephus, contemporary antisemites alleged the Jews worshiped an ass's head in the Temple (cf. Apion 2:80, 114, 120; Tacitus, Histories 5:4). Is this perhaps the bastardization of a Jewish critique against Sethians in Egypt (Egyptian Seth = Donkey/Ass)? Pr...
by billd89
Fri Apr 02, 2021 3:52 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Revisiting Philo's Therapeutae and their Context/Timeline
Replies: 10
Views: 2664

Re: Dating Philo's Therapeutae; Context/Timeline

Thank you. I was aware of this, havent seen it; what is Niehoff's timeline, please? At least for DVC. Moritz Friedländer claimed DVC was written by a 'plagiarist' of Philo (perhaps a former scribe of his?), presumably a decade after his Essene work became known, c. 30 AD; I'm not persuaded by this t...
by billd89
Fri Apr 02, 2021 3:10 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Magharians, a Heretical Hermit Sect c.50 BC?
Replies: 7
Views: 2175

Re: Not Mithraic, Probably

This passage from the Apocalypse of Adam And the eighth kingdom says of him that a cloud came upon the earth and enveloped a rock. He came from it. The angels who were above the cloud nourished him. He received glory and power there. And thus he came to the water. is probably derived from tradition...
by billd89
Fri Apr 02, 2021 1:58 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Magharians, a Heretical Hermit Sect c.50 BC?
Replies: 7
Views: 2175

Re: Magharians, a People who 'Bury Texts in Caves'

Here is a table of the currently presumed dates of authorship. (I have not removed the duplicate texts) NHC # Est. Authorship DATE RANGE Nag Hammadi Texts [Sorted via Estimated Dates of Authorship] 5.5 BCE-3rd The Apocalypse of Adam 12.1 BCE-BCE The Sentences of Sextus 2.2 040-140 The Gospel of Tho...
by billd89
Thu Apr 01, 2021 2:26 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Revisiting Philo's Therapeutae and their Context/Timeline
Replies: 10
Views: 2664

Re: Philo's Therapeutae and Epiphanius Panarion 55.8

Epiphanius Panarion 55 c.8: καὶ δεῖ ἡμᾶς αὐτῷ (sc. Μελχισεδὲκ) προσφέρειν, φασίν, ἵνα δι' αὐτοῦ προσενεχθῇ ὑπὲρ ἡμῶν καὶ εὕρωμεν δι' αὐτοῦ ζωήν. καὶ Χριστὸς μέν, φησίν, ἐξελέγη, ἵνα ἡμᾶς καλέσῃ ἐκ πολλῶν ὁδῶν εἰς μίαν ταύτην τὴν γνῶσιν, ὑπὸ θεοῦ κεχρισμένος καὶ ἐκλεκτὸς γενόμενος, ἐπειδὴ ἀπέστρεψεν ...