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by billd89
Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:05 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Question: Petrinism, and specifically Paulism's (?) reunion with it
Replies: 5
Views: 1407

Corrections (certainly needed!)

Alas and alack, quick and dirty is ... quick and dirty. My working translation is admittedly a first draft, has errors, etc. In fact, I haven't read or written French (and I wasn't a good student) in over 25 years. There is no translation, so I must muddle through ... "L'Eglise peut avoir parfaiteme...
by billd89
Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:18 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Question: Petrinism, and specifically Paulism's (?) reunion with it
Replies: 5
Views: 1407

Question: Petrinism, and specifically Paulism's (?) reunion with it

Can someone clarify this point, from Moriz Friedländer’s “La Secte de Melchisédec et l'Épître aux Hébreux” in Revue des Études Juives Vol. 5 (1882), Part 1: p.14 L'Eglise peut avoir parfaitement raison de dire que leur hérésie se prévalait de l'Épître aux Hébreux; mais il n'est nullement prouvé de l...
by billd89
Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:45 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Nasaraeans, Mandaeans, Enochic Judaism, & Christianity.
Replies: 38
Views: 10473

Re: Nasaraeans, et al.

There seems to have been a strain of Judaism, practiced in the Temple, which revered the seven planets, the heavens, and other astronomical entities. Memory of this strain has been repressed in the Jewish scriptures, relegated to descriptions of heretical moments in Israelite history. Temple or Syn...
by billd89
Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:52 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Heb 5:13 - 'Melchizedekians', λόγου δικαιοσύνης & Hermetica?
Replies: 11
Views: 5968

Re: Heb 5:13 - 'Melchizedekians', λόγου δικαιοσύνης

Your footnote stands out. Hebrews 5.13: πᾶς γὰρ ὁ μετέχων γάλακτος ἄπειρος λόγου δικαιοσύνης , νήπιος γάρ ἐστιν. Perhaps there were two different recensions of this lost text: the Λόγος Τελείας Δικαιοσύνης and the Λόγος Δικαιοσύνης, the righteousness espoused by the latter not being quite as perfec...
by billd89
Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:48 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Heb 5:13 - 'Melchizedekians', λόγου δικαιοσύνης & Hermetica?
Replies: 11
Views: 5968

Re: Heb 5:13 - 'Melchizedekians'

I apologise upfront if I completely misunderstand your point, yet I see two very strong links to my knowledge of Thomas: milk and Righteousness No apologies needed; I won't get upset if the thread veers off Hebrews' authorship, intended audience, 'Melchizedekians' etc. Gospel of Thomas was discover...
by billd89
Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:41 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Heb 5:13 - 'Melchizedekians', λόγου δικαιοσύνης & Hermetica?
Replies: 11
Views: 5968

Heb 5:13 - 'Melchizedekians', λόγου δικαιοσύνης & Hermetica?

I've been translating Moriz Friedländer’s “La Secte de Melchisédec et l'Épître aux Hébreux” in Revue des Études Juives Vol. 6, No. 12 (1882), Part 3: pp.187-199 (third part wrapping up: almost there!). As indicated elsewhere, whether Friedländer's ideas are accepted by modern consensus is largely im...
by billd89
Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:14 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Translation Help: Philo Passage on Therapeuts, DVC 78-79
Replies: 19
Views: 7509

No. That wasn't what I said at all.

This is what I wrote: "I have read this before, thank you. It's wholly unpersuasive: a shallow, transparent denial" and then ... "His view of Therapeutism in Ch. III. is at fault. ... It is a fact that the allegorising activity of the Therapeutse, as described in the D. V. C., in no way differs from...
by billd89
Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:54 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Translation Help: Philo Passage on Therapeuts, DVC 78-79
Replies: 19
Views: 7509

hmm - what do you mean?

The sources don't show what you're saying. Can you be more specific? 1) On his essay on Jewish Gnosticism, Birger Pearson recommends Friedländer (although not unreservedly) as a radical thinker who was ignored by his peers. His unpopular positions challenged dominant Jewish and Christian writers ali...
by billd89
Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:33 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Translation Help: Philo Passage on Therapeuts, DVC 78-79
Replies: 19
Views: 7509

Question of Authorship

No doubt, DVC is Very Important, the Most Significant of Philo's (supposed) works. Scholars desperately 'want' DVC to be Philo's (and that alone makes me suspicious!), so this is the peskiest question: But is it? What makes it so? In fact : beyond druthers, or the politics of opinion (bullsh*t). Bec...
by billd89
Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:19 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Translation Help: Philo Passage on Therapeuts, DVC 78-79
Replies: 19
Views: 7509

Friedländer’s On the Origin of Christianity ...[1894], Part 10

{p.95} We recall the DVC repeatedly emphasizes the outsized role Allegory played for the Therapeuts. In this regard, the following passage is particularly important: “The interpretation of the Holy Scripture aims to explore the deeper meaning through Allegory, because for these men the whole of The ...