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by GakuseiDon
Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:06 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mythicist evidence: Why is Justin accused "to hold the same opinions as others"?
Replies: 4
Views: 3453

Re: Mythicist evidence: Why is Justin accused "to hold the same opinions as others"?

Which things Plato reading, and not accurately understanding , and not apprehending that it was the figure of the cross, but taking it to be a placing crosswise, he said that the power next to the first God was placed crosswise in the universe You can be sure that when Justin Martyr states an autho...
by GakuseiDon
Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:33 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: In China the Government is Dictating Scripture
Replies: 15
Views: 5403

Re: In China the Government is Dictating Scripture

Secret Alias wrote:
Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:40 am
But something like this COULDN'T POSSIBLY HAVE OCCURRED IN ANTIQUITY WHEN THE FOURFOLD GOSPEL WAS CANONIZED. No of course not. Because things like this never happen.
Is that really a modern mainstream argument in biblical studies?
by GakuseiDon
Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:38 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Is Pilate an explorer?
Replies: 7
Views: 2828

Re: Is Pilate an explorer?

Other answers are possible, for the function of Pilate as bearer of light on an (otherwise dark) affair. Could it be that somehow Pilate was "a pilot"? Planes bear lights. I know that Pilate comes from "javelin", but javelins look like planes without wings. And planes fly through the air ! It is al...
by GakuseiDon
Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:53 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 1 Thessalonians 2:13-16
Replies: 83
Views: 30385

Re: 1 Thessalonians 2:13-16

That doesn't sound like that the princes of this world were behind the crucifixion. It sounds like they were actively involved. But maybe I'm reading too much into the English translation. There are spiritual entities who seem to receive unmitigated credit for human words and deeds and for other li...
by GakuseiDon
Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:24 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 1 Thessalonians 2:13-16
Replies: 83
Views: 30385

Re: 1 Thessalonians 2:13-16

This way we can have our cake and eat it too. Since others interpret Ps. 2 as referring to demonic rulers acting through humans, then the same thing could be going on in Paul, and thus 1 Cor. 2 and 1 Thess. 2:14-16 would not be in contradiction. I'm not so sure. If a cosmically important person lik...
by GakuseiDon
Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:02 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 1 Thessalonians 2:13-16
Replies: 83
Views: 30385

Re: 1 Thessalonians 2:14-16 --- Interpolation or Not?

But "wrath has come upon them to the utmost" doesn't fit my proposal, since it seems to refer to the Jewish war. Perhaps just that part is an interpolation, but once one starts declaring parts that don't match "interpolations" for no other reason than to get a passage to fit, it shows a weakness in...
by GakuseiDon
Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:19 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 1 Thessalonians 2:13-16
Replies: 83
Views: 30385

Re: 1 Thessalonians 2:14-16 --- Interpolation or Not?

GakuseiDon provided a reasonable solution to this verse in another thread --- a solution based on the Jewish scriptures as Paul's source material. Thanks, though I wouldn't give it as strong a claim as a "reasonable solution". But for those who believe that a lot of early Christian ideas were extra...
by GakuseiDon
Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:14 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Shepherd of Hermas
Replies: 6
Views: 2748

Re: The Shepherd of Hermas

It might be worth noting that this is another early text that Earl Doherty believes was written by Christians with no historical Jesus in mind. From his "Jesus: Neither God Nor Man", pages 270-272: For all its length, the names of Jesus and Christ are never used. (The sole appearance of "Christ" in ...
by GakuseiDon
Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:44 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Traces of docetism in Herod's interest about Jesus
Replies: 3
Views: 3317

Re: Traces of docetism in Herod's interest about Jesus

Herod said, “John I beheaded, but who is this about whom I hear such things?” And he sought to see him. (Luke 9:9) I had read too literally this verse , to mean that Herod desided simply to meet Jesus face to face. Really, Herod could very well see Jesus face to face, and in any moment he desired. ...
by GakuseiDon
Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:38 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: New Testament -- which are the mythicist texts? Analysis of Carrier OHJ
Replies: 44
Views: 19442

Re: New Testament -- which are the mythicist texts? Analysis of Carrier OHJ

That all sounds pretty earthy to me, GakuseiDon. Are you suggesting that references to burning of the bodies of sacrificed animals is figurative, or that the gate outside which he suffered was a spiritual gate? No, I agree it all sounds 'earthly' in Hebrews to me also. Just playing devil's advocate...