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by Bernard Muller
Tue Apr 14, 2020 4:53 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Matthew's gospel first written in Hebrew?
Replies: 75
Views: 14437

Re: Matthew's gospel first written in Hebrew?

to John2, In your 2 quotes from Jerome, the gospel in question looks to be the Hebrew logia of Matthew, generally maintained (following Papias) by Matthew (however Jerome would prefer that gospel be called according to the apostles), but is a different gospel than the Greek (canonical) Matthew's gos...
by Bernard Muller
Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:18 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Matthew's gospel first written in Hebrew?
Replies: 75
Views: 14437

Re: Matthew's gospel first written in Hebrew?

to John2, And Clement of Alexandria at least had information about Mark that Eusebius said was in keeping with Papias and also cites a translation of the Gospel of the Hebrews (aka the Hebrew Matthew) The gospel of the Hebrews was not the Hebrew Matthew. The Gospel called according to the Hebrews hi...
by Bernard Muller
Fri Apr 10, 2020 5:44 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Matthew's gospel first written in Hebrew?
Replies: 75
Views: 14437

Re: Matthew's gospel first written in Hebrew?

to John2, to John2, I understand that logia can be interpreted to mean that Papias is not referring to a gospel, but it can also be interpreted to mean that he is, and that makes the most sense to me not only from the context but also because that is how everyone who had access to Papias' writings i...
by Bernard Muller
Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:18 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: The seventy weeks of Daniel 9.24-27.
Replies: 19
Views: 34133

Re: The seventy weeks of Daniel 9.24-27.

I covered in details (and of course with plenty of evidence) the make up of Daniel (with dating of each parts) and above all the meaning of 70 & 62 "weeks". Everything fit and make a lot of sense. Start here http://historical-jesus.info/danrv.html and then proceed to http://historical-jesus.info/dan...
by Bernard Muller
Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:21 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Matthew's gospel first written in Hebrew?
Replies: 75
Views: 14437

Re: Matthew's gospel first written in Hebrew?

to John2, I understand that logia can be interpreted to mean that Papias is not referring to a gospel, but it can also be interpreted to mean that he is, and that makes the most sense to me not only from the context but also because that is how everyone who had access to Papias' writings in antiquit...
by Bernard Muller
Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:53 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Matthew's gospel first written in Hebrew?
Replies: 75
Views: 14437

Re: Matthew's gospel first written in Hebrew?

to Joseph D.L., Same tired trite we've heard since Tertullian. Weird how Papias, Polycarp, Hegesippus and Justin just seem to ignore this fact. You know, the people who were alive when Marcion was too? Luke doesn't even exist to them. Irenaeus was a young man when Marcion was still alive. Tertullian...
by Bernard Muller
Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:52 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Matthew's gospel first written in Hebrew?
Replies: 75
Views: 14437

Re: Matthew's gospel first written in Hebrew?

to Stuart, Bernard, With all due respect you simply dodge the vocabulary problem. It's a non answer. No, I did not. I answered about the two occurrences of the so-called Lukan favorite words. For the 50 words, I asked for more data you may know (as from a book or a video accessible from the internet...
by Bernard Muller
Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:12 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Matthew's gospel first written in Hebrew?
Replies: 75
Views: 14437

Re: Matthew's gospel first written in Hebrew?

to John D.L., Opinions, opinions. Marcion's gospel was drawn from Luke. There is evidence pointing to that, such as exposed here: http://historical-jesus.info/53.html Marcion, active in the Christian world from around 130, had a gospel called 'gospel of the Lord'. For orthodox fathers of the Church,...
by Bernard Muller
Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:53 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Matthew's gospel first written in Hebrew?
Replies: 75
Views: 14437

Re: Matthew's gospel first written in Hebrew?

to John2, In my view the multiple translations of the Hebrew Matthew would essentially be "Q," if not quite in the sense it is commonly thought (i.e., they would not have been collections of "sayings" only). Q also contains narrative elements. I meant that I think the translations of the Hebrew Matt...
by Bernard Muller
Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:08 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Matthew's gospel first written in Hebrew?
Replies: 75
Views: 14437

Re: Matthew's gospel first written in Hebrew?

to Stuart Bernard, The problem with anyone accepting the veracity of the Church Fathers, especially Tertullian, with respect to the concept of his sect cutting Luke is vocabulary. Did you read the second half of http://historical-jesus.info/53.html ? You have to explain why almost all the Lukan favo...