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by Bernard Muller
Tue Mar 17, 2020 2:08 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What Are the Implications that Peter Taught in 'Anecdotes'?
Replies: 84
Views: 44579

Re: What Are the Implications that Peter Taught in 'Anecdotes'?

to Secret Alias, 1. What verb would you use when the noun is teaching OK Let's consider "For he neither heard the Lord nor followed him, but afterward, as I said, he followed Peter, who adapted his teaching to the needs of his hearers, but with no intention of giving a connected account of the Lord’...
by Bernard Muller
Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:24 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What Are the Implications that Peter Taught in 'Anecdotes'?
Replies: 84
Views: 44579

Re: What Are the Implications that Peter Taught in 'Anecdotes'?

to Secret Alias,
1. Peter teaches with anecdotes
Papias never wrote Peter TAUGHT (with anecdotes).
2. Mark arranges the anecdotes incorrectly
3. Matthew corrected Mark's arrangement
Where did you find in Matthew corrections of Mark's arrangement?

Cordially Bernard
by Bernard Muller
Sun Mar 15, 2020 10:04 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What Are the Implications that Peter Taught in 'Anecdotes'?
Replies: 84
Views: 44579

Re: What Are the Implications that Peter Taught in 'Anecdotes'?

Also, the whole logic of the passage stands with the obvious translation. Mark did not write in order. Why not? Papias says it was because he listened to Peter's teaching and not to the Lord himself. But so what? Well, Peter was teaching to the needs (πρὸς τὰς χρείας) of his audience, not making an...
by Bernard Muller
Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:09 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospel of John a Forgery, Johannine Communities Never Existed
Replies: 52
Views: 40036

Re: Gospel of John a Forgery, Johannine Communities Never Existed

The harvest in Rev 14:14-17, made by "like a son of man", with a golden crown, with his own sickle, is for the "good ones". The second harvest (Rev 14:15-17), done by an angel, with a different sickle, is obviously for the "bad ones". I don't know where that observation leads to, but I think it need...
by Bernard Muller
Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:35 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospel of John a Forgery, Johannine Communities Never Existed
Replies: 52
Views: 40036

Re: Gospel of John a Forgery, Johannine Communities Never Existed

to Joseph D. L., Did you see that? Enough of Jerusalem was left in order for the Roman army to establish a garrison, as opposed to "There will not be left here one stone upon another that will not be thrown down." That wasn't until Hadrian made Aelia Capitolina and turned Jerusalem into a Roman city...
by Bernard Muller
Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:13 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospel of John a Forgery, Johannine Communities Never Existed
Replies: 52
Views: 40036

Re: Gospel of John a Forgery, Johannine Communities Never Existed

to Joseph D. L. Irenaeus states that these heretics used the Gospels of Matthew, Luke and John, and gives specific groups in the process. He does not do the same for Mark. Why?????? Finally you employ the word USED (rather than gave and ascribed). What about Mark? Matthew (which incorporates 90% of ...
by Bernard Muller
Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:58 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospel of John a Forgery, Johannine Communities Never Existed
Replies: 52
Views: 40036

Re: Gospel of John a Forgery, Johannine Communities Never Existed

to Joseph D. L., Then why did he do just that, as I proved above? Irenaeus did not ascribed (attributed) the gospels (except Mark) to groups of "heretics", just that those heretics made use of these gospels. how many time I have to repeat that. Luke is a redaction of Gospel of the Lord, a text which...
by Bernard Muller
Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:42 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospel of John a Forgery, Johannine Communities Never Existed
Replies: 52
Views: 40036

Re: Gospel of John a Forgery, Johannine Communities Never Existed

to Joseph D. L., I've already given my reasons why chs 11, 13, 14, and 19 of Revelation are responses to the Kitos revolt and bar Kochba revolt. And where would these reasons be given? Indeed, ch 14 is almost a parallel of the same account found in Gittin 57 about Hadrian building a vineyard from th...
by Bernard Muller
Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:03 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospel of John a Forgery, Johannine Communities Never Existed
Replies: 52
Views: 40036

Re: Gospel of John a Forgery, Johannine Communities Never Existed

to Joseph D. L., Because he gives Matthew to the Ebionites, Luke to the Marcionites, John to the Nicolaitians and Valentinians, but Mark remains unclaimed. Irenaeus wrote that Matthew, Luke & John were used by different "heretics" (and not "gives to "heretics""). I do not see why would that affect M...
by Bernard Muller
Wed Mar 11, 2020 1:35 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospel of John a Forgery, Johannine Communities Never Existed
Replies: 52
Views: 40036

Re: Gospel of John a Forgery, Johannine Communities Never Existed

to Joseph D. L., Antiquities was (allegedly) published in the nineties of the first century. How then can you say Mark and Antiquities correspond to each other, but Mark was published no later than 71 ad? Unless you're trying to claim Josephus used Mark, in which case I will bid you farewell. Well "...