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by perseusomega9
Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:35 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dating One Corinthians 13
Replies: 22
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Re: Dating One Corinthians 13

and those start in the redactional seam at 12.31b
by perseusomega9
Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:22 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dating One Corinthians 13
Replies: 22
Views: 8966

Re: Dating One Corinthians 13

he also notes 10-11 hapax legomena in 13 compared to the 'authentic' Pauline epistles.
by perseusomega9
Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:26 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dating One Corinthians 13
Replies: 22
Views: 8966

Re: Dating One Corinthians 13

Walker makes the same observation as my OP Martyrdom. In 1 Cor. 13.3, there may be a reference to martyrdom. Here, we encounter what Fee terms 'one of the truly difficult' textual choices in the New Testament.65 Although the manuscript evidence would appear to support the reading, 'if I deliver my b...
by perseusomega9
Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:07 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dating One Corinthians 13
Replies: 22
Views: 8966

Re: Dating One Corinthians 13

Walker's points for 1 Cor 13 interpolation. Can be seen as independent unit, genre differs from chs 12 & 14 unlike 12 & 14 does not contain a single imperative verb and all verbs with people as subject are 1st person vs 3rd for 12 & 14 seems it would be more appropriate after 14 12 & 14 discuss spir...
by perseusomega9
Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:01 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dating One Corinthians 13
Replies: 22
Views: 8966

Re: Dating One Corinthians 13

To your last part, my initial thinking is that the torture of christian martyrs by fire would place the writing of 1 cor 13 somewhere between Tacitus and the martyrdom of Polycarp/Peregrinus.
by perseusomega9
Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:51 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dating One Corinthians 13
Replies: 22
Views: 8966

Re: Dating One Corinthians 13

I read Walker years ago, I'll dig it up and check. I'm generally one that doesnt need to be convinced the epistles are chock full of interpolations, I just dont remember this specific case. I'm reading an anthology of essays right now in a book titled The Roman's Debate ed. Karl Donfried. I'm consis...
by perseusomega9
Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:39 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dating One Corinthians 13
Replies: 22
Views: 8966

Re: Dating One Corinthians 13

Thanks Ben, on another forum someone provided me with Metzger who comes to a similar conclusion. It's a good argument, but I just think a lot hinges on the assumed dating needed in (1) that gets the ball rolling. What do you think of the argument by Fee?
by perseusomega9
Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:49 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dating One Corinthians 13
Replies: 22
Views: 8966

Dating One Corinthians 13

I was reading an essay by Krister Stendahl and he was discussing 1 Cor 13. In 13:3 he quotes If I give away all my possessions, and if I hand over my body to be burned , but do not have love, I have gained nothing this jumped out at me as I've never seen that before. So I pull out my Harper Collins ...