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by John2
Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:28 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did the Jerusalem church even preach Jesus Christ?
Replies: 33
Views: 754

Re: Did the Jerusalem church even preach Jesus Christ?

I gather that the main argument against the authenticity of 1 Peter is it's polished Greek and the assumption that Peter would thus not have been able to write it. But 5:12 says that it was written with the help of Silvanus, similar to the way that Josephus had assistants help him with Greek. 1 Pete...
by John2
Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:44 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did the Jerusalem church even preach Jesus Christ?
Replies: 33
Views: 754

Re: Did the Jerusalem church even preach Jesus Christ?

rgprice wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:23 pm
1 Peter is just a forgery, it has nothing to do with Peter.

What makes you think that? Just curious.
by John2
Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:13 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did the Jerusalem church even preach Jesus Christ?
Replies: 33
Views: 754

Re: Did the Jerusalem church even preach Jesus Christ?

But Peter is an apostle to the circumcised, so what is Peter's gospel if the point of Paul's gospel is telling Gentiles why they don't need to be circumcised? Is Peter's gospel about the Final Judgement? Is the whole story that all agreed that the Final Judgement was at hand and that faith in Jesus...
by John2
Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:23 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did the Jerusalem church even preach Jesus Christ?
Replies: 33
Views: 754

Re: Did the Jerusalem church even preach Jesus Christ?

But what was Peter's Gospel? It seems to me that what the Jerusalem church was engaged in was merely evangelical Judaism.

In my view that is all laid out by Peter himself in 1 Peter (in which he calls himself "an apostle of Jesus Christ"). It's that simple, I think.
by John2
Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:40 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Almost 60 Percent of Markan Jesus Sayings Appear in Thomas
Replies: 18
Views: 1020

Re: Almost 60 Percent of Markan Jesus Sayings Appear in Thomas

Check this out ML https://academic.oup.com/jts/article-abstract/XXVII/2/482/1667430?redirectedFrom=PDF If they're right we have a window into a lost non-canonical gospel used by the earlier church fathers The question then becomes - does this draw on Thomas sayings or are they all outside Thomas? (...
by John2
Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:14 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did the Jerusalem church even preach Jesus Christ?
Replies: 33
Views: 754

Re: Did the Jerusalem church even preach Jesus Christ?

The leaders of the Jerusalem church advocate circumcision. Did they though? I get the impression that it was only the "false brothers" Paul mentions in Gal. 2:3-5 who advocated for Gentile circumcision. Yet not even Titus, who was with me, was compelled to be circumcised, even though he was a Greek...
by John2
Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:33 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Almost 60 Percent of Markan Jesus Sayings Appear in Thomas
Replies: 18
Views: 1020

Re: Almost 60 Percent of Markan Jesus Sayings Appear in Thomas

Check this out ML https://academic.oup.com/jts/article-abstract/XXVII/2/482/1667430?redirectedFrom=PDF If they're right we have a window into a lost non-canonical gospel used by the earlier church fathers The question then becomes - does this draw on Thomas sayings or are they all outside Thomas? (...
by John2
Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:15 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Interesting statement in Romans 15
Replies: 12
Views: 2505

Re: Interesting statement in Romans 15

No, you probably shoulda tried harder.

Alright, I'll stop. :)
by John2
Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:10 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Interesting statement in Romans 15
Replies: 12
Views: 2505

Re: Interesting statement in Romans 15

I couldn't resist. :D
by John2
Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:31 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Interesting statement in Romans 15
Replies: 12
Views: 2505

Re: Interesting statement in Romans 15

No, you're hyperbolic on your face. ;)