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by John2
Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:20 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jesephus (sic) - hints of a messiah/Christ in the writings attributed to Josephus
Replies: 12
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Re: Jesephus (sic) - hints of a messiah/Christ in the writings of Josephus

Does some of that come across as similar to passages or themes in the NT? Sure, and I think it's because Jesus and Josephus were Fourth Philosophers (and moderate ones at that), so they talk a similar talk. Both of them liked Daniel, for example (as did other Fourth Philosophers), and believed that...
by John2
Sat Nov 03, 2018 6:24 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Philip
Replies: 41
Views: 15799

Re: Philip

And I see that Dunn goes on to list three options for why Paul persecuted Christians, with the third one (on page 340) being similar to what I'm thinking. He saw the first Christians as abusing and abandoning the law, the very centre of his religion as a scrupulous Pharisee, and therefore as threate...
by John2
Sat Nov 03, 2018 5:05 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Philip
Replies: 41
Views: 15799

Re: Philip

And this makes me want to take another look at what Acts says about Saul (right before the Philip passage, which Matthews argues derives from an earlier source, which I'm thinking could be Papias), and it also seems to be in keeping with the language that Paul uses to describe his persecution of the...
by John2
Sat Nov 03, 2018 2:57 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Philip
Replies: 41
Views: 15799

Re: Philip

I intend to eventually circle back to Philip (I'm still trying to sort out Josephus' Philip's association with twelve and seventy messengers, for one thing), but as I take another look into the issue of whether Paul was given authority to persecute Christians in Damascus (as per Acts), Holladay (in ...
by John2
Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:19 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Philip
Replies: 41
Views: 15799

Re: Philip

I think it unlikely that Paul would have been given authority to persecute Christians over positions that were only objectionable to the Pharisees. Andrew Criddle That's a great issue to bring up. My first thought is was Paul ever really given authority to persecute Christians or did Acts make it u...
by John2
Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:37 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Philip
Replies: 41
Views: 15799

Re: Philip

And the same situation is in the Damascus Document. It rejects the oral Torah and emphasizes the written Torah and calls the teachings that are based on the latter "the new covenant" while the Pharisees (aka the "Seekers of Smooth Things") and their cohorts (which included "the kings of the peoples"...
by John2
Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:49 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Philip
Replies: 41
Views: 15799

Re: Philip

I was catching up with Larry Hurtado's blog and found a link to an interesting post discussing why Paul had persecuted Christians prior to his conversion, which is serendipitous for me since I've been thinking about this lately myself and have a different idea. Hurtado writes: In sum, it seems to me...
by John2
Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:57 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Philip
Replies: 41
Views: 15799

Re: Philip

Not only are the large crowds that Jesus attracted in keeping with what Josephus says about the Fourth Philosophy in Ant. 18.1.1 (it ""had a great many followers" and "the nation was infected with this doctrine to an incredible degree"), but so is Acts 21:20: Then they said to Paul: “You see, brothe...
by John2
Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:41 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Philip
Replies: 41
Views: 15799

Re: Philip

I was looking at translations of Mt. 5:47 and noticed that the one I used above doesn't seem to fully convey what I think Jesus means: And if you greet only your own people , what are you doing more than others? Since other translations say "brothers" or "friends," I thought I'd check the Greek, and...
by John2
Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:43 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Philip
Replies: 41
Views: 15799

Re: Philip

DC wrote: Just as not every Islamic cleric is a hot tempered killer, with many Muslims listening to much milder clerics, especially if they live abroad, so there were Judean sages who were not all 4th philosophy like Osama bin Laden. But not all Fourth Philosophers were like Osama bin Laden. Some we...