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by John2
Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:19 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Philip
Replies: 41
Views: 15833

Re: Philip

And Josephus' Philip being an aristocratic pro-Roman soldier reminds me of what Jesus says in Mt. 5:41: If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. As a comment on the biblehub says regarding this verse: The Greek word implies the special compulsion of forced service as courier or m...
by John2
Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:57 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Philip
Replies: 41
Views: 15833

Re: Philip

And I've been thinking about Josephus' Philip being a general in Agrippa's army in the 60's CE and how it would square with having been a follower of Jesus, and in the big picture, as I've noted, not only do I think that Paul was related to the Herodians and sounds like Josephus' Saul, Acts itself ...
by John2
Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:25 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Philip
Replies: 41
Views: 15833

Re: Philip

And I've been thinking about Josephus' Philip being a general in Agrippa's army in the 60's CE and how it would square with having been a follower of Jesus, and in the big picture, as I've noted, not only do I think that Paul was related to the Herodians and sounds like Josephus' Saul, Acts itself s...
by John2
Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:03 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Philip
Replies: 41
Views: 15833

Re: Philip

I'm still slowly going through Matthews' Philip (which is excellent but I have limited access to it) and want to make a note of something he writes in chapter two on pages 38-39: It is highly likely that the role Philip plays in 8:5-13 as the first missionary to Samaria depends on pre-Lukan traditio...
by John2
Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:25 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Against who was the Earliest Gospel written?
Replies: 14
Views: 1917

Re: Against who was the Earliest Gospel written?

John2's paradox: 1) Jesus was killed by Romans, not by Jews.---> the scribes and pharisees are only defamed and attacked without reason by the earliest gospel. 2) The scribes and pharisees were the true enemies of Jesus---> the Romans were innocent for the his death, as per the earliest gospel. . H...
by John2
Thu Oct 25, 2018 4:21 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Ultimate Ascension of Isaiah thread
Replies: 26
Views: 2909

Re: Ultimate Ascension of Isaiah thread

Ben wrote: ... in 10.8 the beloved is told to "go forth and descend through all the heavens" to the firmament and "that world" and then to the angel in Sheol. Here the earth ("that world") comes across as no more than just another point along the path, no more or less likely to host the crucifixion ...
by John2
Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:44 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Against who was the Earliest Gospel written?
Replies: 14
Views: 1917

Re: Against who was the Earliest Gospel written?

Against who was the first Gospel written? The Pharisees (who were in cahoots with Herodians, priests and scribes), I think. It seems to be the case throughout Jesus' ministry. Mk. 2:16-17: And the scribes of the Pharisees, when they saw that he was eating with the sinners and publicans, said unto h...
by John2
Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:28 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Philip
Replies: 41
Views: 15833

Re: Philip

perseusomega9 wrote:
Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:27 pm
I'm partial to the idea that the 'Daughters of Phillip' were a women's religious order.
Why?
by John2
Sat Oct 20, 2018 12:26 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Philip
Replies: 41
Views: 15833

Re: Philip

As I plug slowly along through Matthews' Philip , he points out something I had never noticed before that I think confirms a relatively early date for Papias. He notes on pages 30-31: There has been a propensity among modern scholars to date Papias' writing during the reign of Hadrian (117-138 GE) o...
by John2
Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:38 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Significance of the Gospel of Thomas if the Canonical Gospels are late?
Replies: 14
Views: 3814

Re: Significance of the Gospel of Thomas if the Canonical Gospels are late?

gmx wrote: Papias refers to two writings, one by Mark, and one by Matthew, but does not call them gospels. Does not use that word "gospel" as far as I know. Papias is writing anywhere from 95-130 AD, depending on your worldview. He doesn't mention any writings of Thomas. Ah, good point. I'm a big Pa...