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by rakovsky
Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:38 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Can Jesus' rising "meta" three days match a 3rd day rising?
Replies: 34
Views: 11803

Re: Can Jesus' rising "meta" three days match a 3rd day risi

I will start by noting your proposal that since decay sets in on the 4th day that there must be a 4th day resurrection because death only could be on the 4th day with the decay. However, Psalm 16 says that the body of the holy one won't undergo corruption. I have seen an apologist use this verse as ...
by rakovsky
Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:28 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Strongest, most direct evidence to doubt the Resurrection?
Replies: 68
Views: 37585

Re: Strongest, most direct evidence to doubt the Resurrectio

Bernard, You appear entrenched in your position that the use of the term "meta" (after/with in Greek) can only mean "after" 3 days in the strictest sense following exactly 24 hours, not a flexible one in common speech like " With three days' sail you will reach your destination," which could allow a...
by rakovsky
Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:12 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Can Jesus' rising "meta" three days match a 3rd day rising?
Replies: 34
Views: 11803

Can Jesus' rising "meta" three days match a 3rd day rising?

On the thread "Strongest, most direct evidence to doubt the Resurrection?" (http://earlywritings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1970&start=10), Bernard Muller proposed that Mark's reference to resurrection "meta" (after or with) three days can only mean resurrection on the fourth day or later, and th...
by rakovsky
Fri Nov 27, 2015 3:06 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Strongest, most direct evidence to doubt the Resurrection?
Replies: 68
Views: 37585

Re: Strongest, most direct evidence to doubt the Resurrectio

Besides, Mark 14:58, talking about Jesus' resurrection using the figure of the temple, in a verse that is not in the Mark 16 later addition, says: "within (dia) three days I will build another made without hands." Yes, but when "Mark" had Jesus predicting his resurrection "after three days", he did...
by rakovsky
Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:43 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Strongest, most direct evidence to doubt the Resurrection?
Replies: 68
Views: 37585

Re: Strongest, most direct evidence to doubt the Resurrectio

We are dealing with a different way of counting time in the Bible than we do today. I mean, the fact that the 24 hour "day" started as a sunset is totally foreign to us outside of Jewish and other religious reckoning handed down. And then you have the way that "part of a day" was counted as a full ...
by rakovsky
Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:39 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Strongest, most direct evidence to doubt the Resurrection?
Replies: 68
Views: 37585

Re: Strongest, most direct evidence to doubt the Resurrectio

Bernard, Here is another solution to your question: The GPeter has a different chronological scheme from the standard and traditional Friday-crucifixion and Sunday-morning-resurrection scheme that most assume from Mark, Matthew, Luke, and John. In the GPeter we are told that after Jesus died and was...
by rakovsky
Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:47 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Strongest, most direct evidence to doubt the Resurrection?
Replies: 68
Views: 37585

Re: Strongest, most direct evidence to doubt the Resurrectio

Bernard, Luke 24:21: "But we trusted that it had been he which should have redeemed Israel: and beside all this, to day is the third day since these things were done. " If Sunday was the third day "since" they were done, then Saturday would be the second day since they were done and Friday would be ...
by rakovsky
Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:53 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Strongest, most direct evidence to doubt the Resurrection?
Replies: 68
Views: 37585

Re: Strongest, most direct evidence to doubt the Resurrectio

Basically, in understanding literature you need to look for harmonization, and it's only when harmonization can't happen that you are stuck with a contradiction. If there is a real way to reasonably or arguably interpret the text, then it's not a fatal flaw. If there were 100% harmonization in thes...
by rakovsky
Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:52 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Strongest, most direct evidence to doubt the Resurrection?
Replies: 68
Views: 37585

Re: Strongest, most direct evidence to doubt the Resurrectio

I get a sense that Matthew is pulling my leg when he talks about Herod's order to kill the infants in Bethlehem, or about the angel coming down to roll the stone away, but I don't know how to prove it. In Herod's case we don't have a record elsewhere of such an order, but he could have made and then...
by rakovsky
Thu Nov 26, 2015 7:46 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Strongest, most direct evidence to doubt the Resurrection?
Replies: 68
Views: 37585

Re: Strongest, most direct evidence to doubt the Resurrectio

Bernard, Matthew wrote that the pharisees said that Jesus said that He would resurrect after three days and that the pharisees concluded that the guards should only be posted for Saturday and Sunday (the third day). If Matthew was making up this story about the guards being posted only for three day...