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by Nathan
Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:16 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Cleverly Devised Myths --- 2 Peter 1:16
Replies: 26
Views: 24632

Re: Cleverly Devised Myths --- 2 Peter 1:16

To what doctrinal camp of Christianity would you place the author of 2 Peter? I suppose it was written by a post-70 CE Christian who was cool with Paul and Jewish Christianity ... to me it sounds like the author could have been a post-70 CE Nazarene Jewish Christian (or someone who was influenced b...
by Nathan
Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:22 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: is Mark a midrash?= the raising of Jairus' girl
Replies: 6
Views: 6241

Re: is Mark a midrash?= the raising of Jairus' girl

MARK 5:38-41= He arrived at the house of the synagogue leader, and viewed the tumult, and them that wept and wailed loudly. When he got there, he asked, “Why make ye much ado and weep? The damsel is not dead, but sleeps.” And they laughed at him as (if he were) ridiculous. But after he’d thrown the...
by Nathan
Sat Jul 14, 2018 9:58 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: is Mark a midrash?= the raising of Jairus' girl
Replies: 6
Views: 6241

Re: is Mark a midrash?= the raising of Jairus' girl

MARK 5:38-41= He arrived at the house of the synagogue leader, and viewed the tumult, and them that wept and wailed loudly. When he got there, he asked, “Why make ye much ado and weep? The damsel is not dead, but sleeps.” And they laughed at him as (if he were) ridiculous. But after he’d thrown the...
by Nathan
Thu Apr 12, 2018 5:24 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Trees, crosses, and outstretched hands.
Replies: 100
Views: 56362

Re: Trees, crosses, and outstretched hands.

Somewhat unrelatedly, Davies' claim that the "Odes do not mention Jesus in any sense " is absurd. When (e.g.) Ode 19 talks of the virgin birth, what or who does he think the odist is referring to? Or when Ode 23 speaks of the "name of the Father ... and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit," who is th...
by Nathan
Thu Apr 12, 2018 5:13 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Trees, crosses, and outstretched hands.
Replies: 100
Views: 56362

Re: Trees, crosses, and outstretched hands.

Stevan Davies, Spirit Possession and the Origins of Christianity , page 268: One can go further. The Odes do not mention Jesus in any sense. His name is never used, nor do the Odes contain a single one of his sayings, nor do they mention even one event in which the gospels say he participated. The ...
by Nathan
Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:14 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Achilles Tatius and the Christian eucharist.
Replies: 22
Views: 12612

Re: Achilles Tatius and the Christian eucharist.

The Loeb edition is here: https://ryanfb.github.io/loebolus-data/L045.pdf . The introduction dates the novel to the end of century III. However, papyrus Oxyrhynchus 3836 had not yet been published. Perhaps the date was pushed back to century II solely to accommodate that papyrus. I do not know for ...
by Nathan
Sun Mar 25, 2018 7:52 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: René Salm on AFA to discuss Nazareth
Replies: 24
Views: 16145

Re: René Salm on AFA to discuss Nazareth

The Nazareth discussion suffers from the issue of "absence of evidence is no proof of absence", On the other hand it is more usually harder to claim X if we have no evidence for X . and isn't the "absence of evidence" disputed by the Israel Antiquities Authority? What does the IAA say is the eviden...
by Nathan
Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:06 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: James 1.1 and 2.1.
Replies: 234
Views: 115676

Re: James 1.1 and 2.1.

With respect to the question of James' author, I would just mention that James has several turns of phrase that suggest a Jewish authorship. Ken has already noted above, albeit dismissively, James' reference to "Abraham our father" (2:21), which is a very common Jewish way of referring to the biblic...
by Nathan
Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:54 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Zeus is the Jewish God.
Replies: 184
Views: 152014

Re: Zeus is the Jewish God.

I want to talk about a crucial rule in Greek, Arabic and Hebrew languages is that a god must always have a 'prefix definite article, for example in the New Testament whenever you will find the name God and look up the Greek it is written 'ὁ Θεός , the article is ὁ and in Arabic it is AL, thus the G...
by Nathan
Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:14 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Romans 10.6-7, Jonah, and Moses.
Replies: 33
Views: 15849

Re: Romans 10.6-7, Jonah, and Moses.

There are several Targumic readings that appear in the NT, so the one proposed in the OP does not seem at all beyond the realm of possibilities (even though the Jerusalem Targum itself is believed to have been written long after the NT).