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by Nathan
Thu Mar 09, 2017 4:12 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 60 Scholars On Messianic Expectation At The Turn Of The Era
Replies: 257
Views: 53391

Re: 60 Scholars On Messianic Expectation At The Turn Of The

Secret Alias wrote:Eshdat lamo = fire law.
BDB indicates that Deut. 33:2's eshdat lamo is corrupt, with "many emendations proposed."
by Nathan
Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:00 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 60 Scholars On Messianic Expectation At The Turn Of The Era
Replies: 257
Views: 53391

Re: 60 Scholars On Messianic Expectation At The Turn Of The

The use of Persian makes it clear - no absolutely certain - [the Pentateuch] was written in the Persian period or later. Perhaps you could expand on this a bit. I'm well aware of the use of Persian in late books like Esther and Ezra-Nehemiah, but apart from you I've heard no such claims about the P...
by Nathan
Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:55 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 60 Scholars On Messianic Expectation At The Turn Of The Era
Replies: 257
Views: 53391

Re: 60 Scholars On Messianic Expectation At The Turn Of The

Bullshit. Irenaeus accepts Mosaic authorship in both Against Heresies and Proof of the Apostolic Preaching. (In the latter, for instance, he introduces a garbled version of Genesis 1:1 with the words: "Moses, who was the first to prophecy, says in Hebrew" etc.) You're obviously too stupid to be at ...
by Nathan
Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:26 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 60 Scholars On Messianic Expectation At The Turn Of The Era
Replies: 257
Views: 53391

Re: 60 Scholars On Messianic Expectation At The Turn Of The

Everyone knew Ezra wrote the Torah?? Who's everyone? Clearly not the author of the Bava Batra passage. Various pagans ... Such as? ... and Christians (Irenaeus just the earliest). Bullshit. Irenaeus accepts Mosaic authorship in both Against Heresies and Proof of the Apostolic Preaching . (In the la...
by Nathan
Sun Mar 05, 2017 4:49 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 60 Scholars On Messianic Expectation At The Turn Of The Era
Replies: 257
Views: 53391

Re: 60 Scholars On Messianic Expectation At The Turn Of The

Secret, rabbinic tradition nowhere intimates that Ezra authored the Torah, not in Sanhedrin 21a or anywhere else for that matter. Ummm. EVERYONE outside of the Israelites KNEW Ezra wrote the Torah. The fact that Sanhedrin 21 says Ezra COULD HAVE written the Torah is like my son admitting that the b...
by Nathan
Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:19 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 60 Scholars On Messianic Expectation At The Turn Of The Era
Replies: 257
Views: 53391

Re: 60 Scholars On Messianic Expectation At The Turn Of The

Remember the rabbinic intimation that Ezra wrote the Torah manifests itself in a Mosaic manner. I forget the exact wording but something like 'if anyone could have been equal to the task (of Torah authorship) Ezra was that guy' or something like that. Secret, rabbinic tradition nowhere intimates th...
by Nathan
Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:41 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A Conservative Scholar's Discovery -> Marcionite Priority
Replies: 38
Views: 13585

Re: A Conservative Scholar's Argument for Marcionite Priorit

I would also add: How exactly does a NT canon at the time of Paul support a claim for Marcionite priority? Or are you proposing a broader revision of history? Marcion preceded Paul?
by Nathan
Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:37 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A Conservative Scholar's Discovery -> Marcionite Priority
Replies: 38
Views: 13585

Re: A Conservative Scholar's Argument for Marcionite Priorit

Secret Alias wrote:No of course not.
So what's with the thread title then? It seems rather misleading, not to mention dishonest, considering there's no conservative scholar's argument for Marcionite priority coming from Kruger and the blog you've linked to.
by Nathan
Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:25 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A Conservative Scholar's Discovery -> Marcionite Priority
Replies: 38
Views: 13585

Re: A Conservative Scholar's Argument for Marcionite Priorit

http://michaeljkruger.com/a-curious-clue-about-the-origins-of-the-new-testament-canon One passage that I think contains a number of intriguing clues is 2 Cor 3:14 when Paul says, “When they read the Old Covenant, that same veil remains unlifted.” Often overlooked in this passage is that Paul unders...
by Nathan
Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:17 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: earliest reference to Israel?
Replies: 1
Views: 2592

Re: earliest reference to Israel?

Interesting, Kris. I'd never heard of it before. I did manage to find this article on the subject, which is worth a read.