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by Irish1975
Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:37 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Canon
Replies: 48
Views: 43678

Re: The Canon

[Please note that I added two new posts to this thread; the first is on page 3.]
by Irish1975
Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:35 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Canon
Replies: 48
Views: 43678

Re: The Canon

A recent example of good NT scholarship that appears to me to be hampered by a confused and anachronistic understanding of NT canonicity is Jason BeDuhn's The First New Testament: Marcion's Scriptural Canon . There are two problems. First, BeDuhn adopts a 4th century, and thus anachronistic, notion ...
by Irish1975
Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:34 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Canon
Replies: 48
Views: 43678

Re: The Canon

Consider Bruce Metzger's outline of the problem of the canon: The recognition of the canonical status of the several books of the New Testament was the result of a long and gradual process, in the course of which certain writings, regarded as authoritative, were separated from a much larger body of ...
by Irish1975
Sat Jul 13, 2019 2:51 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Philippians 2.5-11, Romans 13.1-7, and 1 Peter 2.13-24 revisited.
Replies: 10
Views: 5840

Re: Philippians 2.5-11, Romans 13.1-7, and 1 Peter 2.13-24 revisited.

What an extraordinary conception it is that Christ, though he was in the form of God, did not count it robbery, or, to give the words their exact grammatical force, did not think that he must make it the object of an actus rapiendi , to be equal with God. If he was God already, how could he wish to...
by Irish1975
Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:11 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Philippians 2.5-11, Romans 13.1-7, and 1 Peter 2.13-24 revisited.
Replies: 10
Views: 5840

Re: Philippians 2.5-11, Romans 13.1-7, and 1 Peter 2.13-24 revisited.

I find discussions of what is gnostic and what is not to be mostly useless and always tiresome. I prefer to just define the term specifically for the conversation at hand, since it is not one that everybody agrees on. I doubt very much that "gnostic" was used in the second century in the way we use...
by Irish1975
Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:24 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Philippians 2.5-11, Romans 13.1-7, and 1 Peter 2.13-24 revisited.
Replies: 10
Views: 5840

Re: Philippians 2.5-11, Romans 13.1-7, and 1 Peter 2.13-24 revisited.

:lol: Did Wright run over your cat or something? You can see on the table that I posted that the two competing arguments for "idiomatic usage" derive, respectively, from Lightfoot and from Hoover (who relied on earlier work by Jaeger, Foerster, and Gnilka); Wright himself prefers Hoover's correctio...
by Irish1975
Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:15 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Philippians 2.5-11, Romans 13.1-7, and 1 Peter 2.13-24 revisited.
Replies: 10
Views: 5840

Re: Philippians 2.5-11, Romans 13.1-7, and 1 Peter 2.13-24 revisited.

I'm not impressed with a theory of "idiomatic usage" that conveniently enables NT Wright to come up with "not regarded as something to be taken advantage of." It can't be an "idiomatic usage" if there are no other usages of the phrase with that idiomatic sense (at least I'm not finding any). How is ...
by Irish1975
Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:34 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Philippians 2.5-11, Romans 13.1-7, and 1 Peter 2.13-24 revisited.
Replies: 10
Views: 5840

Re: Philippians 2.5-11, Romans 13.1-7, and 1 Peter 2.13-24 revisited.

I have obviously given Philippians 2.5-11 a great deal of thought , and it has struck me that I have no real way of demonstrating whether it predates Paul (who incorporated it into his epistle), it was composed by Paul (whether for this exact epistolary context or for some other context and he deci...
by Irish1975
Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:18 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The name 'Jesus' in the Pauline epistles
Replies: 11
Views: 5802

Re: The name 'Jesus' in the Pauline epistles

I have been wondering about the origin of the name "Jesus." Both the New Testament framing and the saga of modern Jesus scholarship tell the story of a man's humble origin in Nazareth (or Bethlehem), where his parent(s) named him Jesus. One and done. From a mythicist perspective, however, the questi...
by Irish1975
Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:23 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Canon
Replies: 48
Views: 43678

Re: The Canon

Is it "the Gospel of the New Testament" or "the New Testament of the Gospel" ? The latter: "the word of the New Testament of the Gospel." The phrase is τῷ τῆς τοῦ εὐαγγελίου καινῆς διαθήκης λόγῳ, which utilizes one of Greek's most elegant features, IMHO: nested noun phrases. One has to read the ter...