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by davidmartin
Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:22 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Against the Argument for 'Influences' in Early Christianity
Replies: 65
Views: 13899

Re: Against the Argument for 'Influences' in Early Christianity

Broadie makes the case that Marqeh (the Samaritan equivalent to Paul)'s understanding of the tenth comandment is very close to Paul's (on the second page cited here love your God with all your heart and all your soul appears)https://books.google.com/books?id=zqFzyb3ilW0C&pg=PA219&dq=marqah+do+not+l...
by davidmartin
Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:39 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Against the Argument for 'Influences' in Early Christianity
Replies: 65
Views: 13899

Re: Against the Argument for 'Influences' in Early Christianity

Jesus spends a lot of time examining the limits of the tenth commandment - do not lust - in the form preserved by Philo i.e. as a short commandment. Philo's Alexandrian tradition is undoubtedly in my mind Oniadic. In other words, it is ultra-conservative. All signs to me at least argue for Christia...
by davidmartin
Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:36 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: James and the Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs.
Replies: 17
Views: 5392

Re: James and the Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs.

I think people overdo the "influences" argument. If Jesus was a historical person he belonged to a sect and that sect defined the Jesus movement. If Jesus never existed then Paul or Mark wrote to appeal to a segment of the Israelite population. That might be true right at the start if Jesus existed...
by davidmartin
Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:01 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark was Bishop of Alexandria c. 136 CE?
Replies: 16
Views: 5161

Re: Mark was Bishop of Alexandria c. 136 CE?

8. But Justin was especially prominent in those days. In the guise of a philosopher he preached the divine word, and contended for the faith in his writings. He wrote also a work against Marcion, in which he states that the latter was alive at the time he wrote. 9. He speaks as follows: And there i...
by davidmartin
Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:53 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul baptizes “twelve”
Replies: 31
Views: 6242

Re: Paul baptizes “twelve”

Giuseppe wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:39 am
You are a troll if you talk so, sorry.
I am what I am
by davidmartin
Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:19 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul baptizes “twelve”
Replies: 31
Views: 6242

Re: Paul baptizes “twelve”

but it's worse than that, i don't know what YHWH means. what is YHWH?
by davidmartin
Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:34 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul baptizes “twelve”
Replies: 31
Views: 6242

Re: Paul baptizes “twelve”

well i still think the Clementines are against John the baptist whether he's historical or not and i don't think if that was true it would hurt your theory either. it might support your theory. I truly doubt you can simply divide people up into adorers or haters of YHWH though... i just don't know w...
by davidmartin
Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:19 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Matthew, Luke, & the Protevangelium of James (for David).
Replies: 29
Views: 5766

Re: Matthew, Luke, & the Protevangelium of James (for David).

These are all pretty much guesses that don't help date them Nothing conclusive i see so far That is the problem: nothing conclusive (until the Odes start showing up in patristic quotations, in gnostic speculations, and in the manuscript history). That may also be why scholars hesitate to do much wi...
by davidmartin
Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:47 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul baptizes “twelve”
Replies: 31
Views: 6242

Re: Paul baptizes “twelve”

no, John was called John by his father - he didn't get to choose his name
by davidmartin
Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:45 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Matthew, Luke, & the Protevangelium of James (for David).
Replies: 29
Views: 5766

Re: Matthew, Luke, & the Protevangelium of James (for David).

These are all pretty much guesses that don't help date them
Nothing conclusive i see so far

I can point out parts in them that suggest the author knew the saviour figure giving an internal dating to the 50's