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by MrMacSon
Sun Jan 19, 2020 2:46 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did Irenaeus identify John with Jesus without knowing it?
Replies: 20
Views: 5234

Re: Did Irenaeus identify John with Jesus without knowing it?

[Irenaeus ]claiming that this information also had an oral tradition. Which could be an attempt to shore-up the 'information' as having historical veracity ... Irenaeus himself met Polycarp, who was a companion of John, the apostle of Jesus. This begs the question: when was the John that Polycarp m...
by MrMacSon
Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:16 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Not Enough Papias
Replies: 5
Views: 1724

Re: Not Enough Papias

... We are told that [Papias] wrote five volumes. Yet for hundreds of years, the only testimonies from early writers involve the same few “facts”. In some instances they even state that they’re quoting from Papias’ “book 2” or “book 5” or whatever, but they rarely offer much that adds to Irenaeus’ ...
by MrMacSon
Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:12 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Not Enough Papias
Replies: 5
Views: 1724

Re: Not Enough Papias

Ben C. Smith wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:59 pm
2. Papias was a chiliast, and chiliasm fell out of favor at about the time of Constantine.
Is that ever discussed or expalined by Eusebius or others who might have been involved in such a change in theology or doctrine?
by MrMacSon
Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:23 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: One of the two witnesses of Revelation was called Jesus/Joshua
Replies: 23
Views: 5374

Re: One of the two witnesses of Revelation was called Jesus/Joshua

We know another thing: the names of these two witnesses. Zechariah says us who will witness the coming Messiah: Zorobabel and Joshua/Jesus. [We have in an embryional state a pre-Christian passage where a Jew [probably] named [Yeshua/Ἰησοῦς, Iēsoûs/Jesus] is stoned, crucified and risen. . The Livius...
by MrMacSon
Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:49 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: One of the two witnesses of Revelation was called Jesus/Joshua
Replies: 23
Views: 5374

Re: One of the two witnesses of Revelation was called Jesus/Joshua

Because the original text was the following: And their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also they were crucified. (Revelation 11:8) On what basis do you say that, Giuseppe? eta : on the basis of Rev 8:3 ( YLT ) ?? 3 and I will g...
by MrMacSon
Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:01 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: On the goodness of Pilate
Replies: 22
Views: 6072

Re: On the goodness of Pilate

FWIW, - "Philo’s account [of Pilate] is located in a letter of King Agrippa I to Emperor Gaius in Legat . 299-305. Agrippa tried to prevent Gaius from setting up a statue of him in the Jerusalem temple by contrasting the emperor with Pilate. Through his account of Pilate, Agrippa urged Gaius to resp...
by MrMacSon
Fri Jan 10, 2020 7:32 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Meaning of Jesus's Crucifixion
Replies: 24
Views: 3272

Re: The Meaning of Jesus's Crucifixion

... assuming that the crucifixion of Jesus was not a historical event, the meaning of the crucifixion is to be found in the mass crucifixion of Jews by Roman armies in the lead up to the sacking of Jerusalem in 70 CE: Josephus Jewish Wars 5.11 So now Titus’s banks were advanced a great way, notwith...
by MrMacSon
Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:45 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Hep finding an old post here ( I think)
Replies: 5
Views: 1044

Re: Hep finding an old post here ( I think)

DCHindley posted one on the use of Christ, Jesus, ‘Christ Jesus’ & ‘Jesus Christ’ (just in the Pauline epistles, I think)
by MrMacSon
Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:55 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Marcion's Gospel
Replies: 233
Views: 33773

Re: Marcion's Gospel

The question/hypothesis I have proposed has since been asked on the subreddit, r/AdademicBiblical, but not by me - If we assume Marcion priority over Luke, what reason do we have to believe Marcion edited the Pauline Epistles? , - If we assume that gLord has priority over gLuke (Vinzent, Klinghardt,...
by MrMacSon
Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:50 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Marcion's Gospel
Replies: 233
Views: 33773

Re: Marcion's Gospel

But why even mention that at all? Mentioning Paul sure, given the tradition of Markion and Paul, but why even bring up gMark unless their was a connection in the tradition? I made a suggestion of a possible explanation here Basically Hippolytus is arguing: i/ The Gospel tradition which Hippolytus, ...