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by spin
Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:34 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Matt 2:23 and Tertullian’s 'Adv. Marc.' IV.viii
Replies: 31
Views: 21559

Re: Matt 2:23 and Tertullian 'Adv. Marc.' IV.viii

The earliest form of the toponym in Mt 2:23 is "Nazara". The source for the prophecy in 2:23 is the birth of Samson, who would be a Nazirite. If, for example, there was confusion between a waw and a yod (frequently evinced in the DSS), one could read "Nazirite", think it was "Nazwrite", and transcr...
by spin
Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:51 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Matt 2:23 and Tertullian’s 'Adv. Marc.' IV.viii
Replies: 31
Views: 21559

Re: Matt 2:23 and Tertullian's 'Adv. Marc.' IV.viii

Is Tertullian the best source for Hebrew? After all, "the Jews call us [Tertullian's group]" Notsrim--with tsade, not with zayin. Other such indications are in my "Nazarenes," Anchor Bible Dictionary (1992) v. 4, 1049-1050. Clearly Nazareus indicates "Nazirite" in the Vulgate. His citation of Lam 4...
by spin
Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:40 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Matt 2:23 and Tertullian’s 'Adv. Marc.' IV.viii
Replies: 31
Views: 21559

Re: Matt 2:23 and Marcion 'Adv. Marc.' IV.viii

The earliest form of the toponym in Mt 2:23 is "Nazara". The source for the prophecy in 2:23 is the birth of Samson, who would be a Nazirite. If, for example, there was confusion between a waw and a yod (frequently evinced in the DSS), one could read "Nazirite", think it was "Nazwrite", and transcri...
by spin
Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:52 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Karaism and Qumran
Replies: 25
Views: 22465

Re: Karaism and Qumran

spin wrote: "Tangentially, great scholar Louis Ginzberg argued till he was blue in the face that the DSS were medieval and connected with the Karaites. (That was well before the batteries of C14 testing.)" Ginzberg, who died in 1953, did not argue that. Perhaps the scholar intended was Solomon Zeit...
by spin
Fri Oct 20, 2017 4:18 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Karaism and Qumran
Replies: 25
Views: 22465

Re: Karaism and Qumran

Tangentially, great scholar Louis Ginzberg argued till he was blue in the face that the DSS were medieval and connected with the Karaites. (That was well before the batteries of C14 testing.)
by spin
Fri Oct 20, 2017 1:00 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: new issue of J. of the Jesus Movement in its Jewish Setting
Replies: 8
Views: 6178

Re: new issue of J. of the Jesus Movement in its Jewish Setting

In passing, in the latest edition of the Journal of the Jesus Movement in its Jewish Setting there are further advances in the discussion about the significance of ekklhsia (translated as "church" in most places) in relation to the vocabulary of assemblies such as Jewish synagogues, important in und...
by spin
Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:57 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Who existed ? When ? Where ?
Replies: 287
Views: 123978

Re: Who existed ? When ? Where ?

to spin, nothing Nero did could clean his image, the TT then says that Nero did something to clean his image. From Tacitus' annals XV, 44 But neither human help, nor imperial munificence, nor all the modes of placating Heaven, could stifle scandal or dispel the belief that the fire had taken place ...
by spin
Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:25 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Who existed ? When ? Where ?
Replies: 287
Views: 123978

Re: Who existed ? When ? Where ?

Certainly, the Christians' abuses are not revealed in Suetonius' passage, but it is also the case for the pantomimic actor & their partisans. The logic of the abuses is easy to glean (except for the christians). It relates to public situations, public banquets, taverns, pantomimes, chariot events. ...
by spin
Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:47 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Who existed ? When ? Where ?
Replies: 287
Views: 123978

Re: Who existed ? When ? Where ?

I do not see any clash, Did you read for content? How is the execution of christians related to the other items in the list, the bannings, beyond the claim that as it appears in a list of measures taken by Nero to end abuses? What abuses do you think are implied with the execution of christians? An...
by spin
Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:07 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Who existed ? When ? Where ?
Replies: 287
Views: 123978

Re: Who existed ? When ? Where ?

to spin, You've just done the same thing yourself with just as valid a conclusion: Suetonius probably did not have a high opinion on Christians, considering them as garbage, about the same as Tacitus did. My "probably" is justified by what appears in Suetonius' work: "Christians, a class of men giv...