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by Ben C. Smith
Wed Nov 09, 2016 12:49 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul --- A Rock and a Hard Place
Replies: 128
Views: 62828

Re: Paul --- A Rock and a Hard Place

One main objection for all that is the dating of Galatians, which would kill my arguments is that epistle had been written early on. But I did my homework on that in http://historical-jesus.info/hjes3xx.html , complemented by some of the content of http://historical-jesus.info/hjes3xx.html . For wh...
by Ben C. Smith
Tue Nov 08, 2016 4:56 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul --- A Rock and a Hard Place
Replies: 128
Views: 62828

Re: Paul --- A Rock and a Hard Place

Bernard Muller wrote:Peter is right....
Shocker. ;)
by Ben C. Smith
Tue Nov 08, 2016 8:24 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: More Proof that Tertullian Was Copying Irenaeus
Replies: 103
Views: 46252

Re: More Proof that Tertullian Was Copying Irenaeus

Hegesippus in the five books of Memoirs which have come down to us has left a most complete record of his own views. In them he states that on a journey to Rome he met a great many bishops, and that he received the same doctrine from all. It is fitting to hear what he says after making some remarks...
by Ben C. Smith
Mon Nov 07, 2016 7:52 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: More Proof that Tertullian Was Copying Irenaeus
Replies: 103
Views: 46252

Re: More Proof that Tertullian Was Copying Irenaeus

I am not sure we need two editions of Hegesippus. All we need is one edition, written long enough after Anicetus for Hegesippus to be remembering back to Marcellina, but principally and/or tendentiously including events only up until Anicetus. The calculation preserved in Clement of Alexandria comme...
by Ben C. Smith
Mon Nov 07, 2016 7:48 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: More Proof that Tertullian Was Copying Irenaeus
Replies: 103
Views: 46252

Re: More Proof that Tertullian Was Copying Irenaeus

1. For the bishops at Rome were, first, Peter and Paul, the apostles themselves and also bishops—then Linus, then Cletus, then Clement, a contemporary of Peter and Paul whom Paul mentions in the Epistle to the Romans. [discussion about Clement from Epiphanius] In any case, the succession of the bis...
by Ben C. Smith
Mon Nov 07, 2016 4:59 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul --- A Rock and a Hard Place
Replies: 128
Views: 62828

Re: Paul --- A Rock and a Hard Place

to Ben, :D That is not how this math works. Why not? Are you thinking about Carrier's use of his Bayes theorem? No, of course not. I just remember enough from math class to know you do not add the probabilities (16.7% + 16.7%, and so forth) and then trim a bit off the top so that you do not end up ...
by Ben C. Smith
Mon Nov 07, 2016 4:23 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul --- A Rock and a Hard Place
Replies: 128
Views: 62828

Re: Paul --- A Rock and a Hard Place

I do not expect any one of my arguments to be a "killer" demonstrating I am be right without any doubt. Far from that. I certainly not list my arguments for that reason. However if I list 6 independent arguments, and each one of them can be weighted as having 20% chance to show it is an i...
by Ben C. Smith
Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:50 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The apocalyptic XVIth chapter of the Didache
Replies: 43
Views: 20017

Re: The apocalyptic XVIth chapter of the Didache

No, it is your translation which is incorrect. Just because something is impossible does not mean that it has to be retranslated until it is at least feasible. "He flew to London by flapping his arms." That sentence has meaning, even if the meaning is impossible for a human. It would be a...
by Ben C. Smith
Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:12 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: More Proof that Tertullian Was Copying Irenaeus
Replies: 103
Views: 46252

Re: More Proof that Tertullian Was Copying Irenaeus

So in this case you properly cite: His words are as follows: “And the church of Corinth continued in the true faith until Primus was bishop in Corinth. I conversed with them on my way to Rome, and abode with the Corinthians many days, during which we were mutually refreshed in the true doctrine. An...
by Ben C. Smith
Mon Nov 07, 2016 5:44 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Be Afraid. Be Very Afraid For. Confirmation 16:8 Original
Replies: 356
Views: 279793

Re: Be Afraid. Be Very Afraid For. Confirmation 16:8 Origina

Why "wrong"? I don't follow ... yet. :scratch: I am going go guess that Kunigunde put "wrong" in quotation marks because the words, while not grammatically or syntactically incorrect, do not reflect normal Marcan usage. I am also going to guess that the "right" word (&...