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by outhouse
Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:29 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Those stupid disciples!
Replies: 52
Views: 66939

Re: Those stupid disciples!

You are overreaching when you claim to know who the text was written for. The consensus opinion is Christian texts shot for the middle, not the top or bottom. I would ask you to substantiate your claim. If it is a consensus it should be easy. By the way there was no middle, wither rich or poor. Mid...
by outhouse
Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:29 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul never attacked Paganism and this is strange
Replies: 15
Views: 23014

Re: Paul never attacked Paganism and this is strange

None of the text was from Judea, and we view it all as a product of the diaspora. Yes where pagan practice was normal. But the real reason is if you attack pagan practice, you attack the Emperors cult as he was the first son of god, who demanded to be worshipped yearly at the feast. Last thing Paul ...
by outhouse
Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:28 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Those stupid disciples!
Replies: 52
Views: 66939

Re: Those stupid disciples!

I am no longer considering Mark as one of the Christian gospels Why not? 70CE ish there was no orthodoxy of any kind since Judaism was wide and diverse, so was this aspect. With multiple Christologies abound, ask yourself why they created this text. Judaism and its Hellenistic proselytes who found ...
by outhouse
Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:18 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Those stupid disciples!
Replies: 52
Views: 66939

Re: Those stupid disciples!

Gospel language after all is full of double meaning words, with a surface level and either an ironic or deep second meaning. While true in some aspects, your trying to open the door here, for your imaginative claims you cannot in any way substantiate. You are turning the volume up from 1 to 11 on t...
by outhouse
Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:13 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Those stupid disciples!
Replies: 52
Views: 66939

Re: Those stupid disciples!

Conclusion: Jesus selected these guys because they were stupid. No, and you cannot substantiate such a imaginative claim. Jesus would have came from the same low social class as these types of people who lived life, below that of the average peasant. Academically and historically speaking Also the ...
by outhouse
Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:02 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Those stupid disciples!
Replies: 52
Views: 66939

Re: Those stupid disciples!

You have to think, why they were portrayed as cowards who betrayed him, denied him, and never understood him. Even his family is portrayed as not understanding him. There had to be negative Aramaic traditions that went against the whole NT traditions. The NT text would have been a perversion of what...
by outhouse
Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:24 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dating Paul's Conversion c.36 C.E.
Replies: 222
Views: 150797

Re: Dating Paul's Conversion c.36 C.E.

What, exactly, makes you think that the Passover celebration in Jerusalem was one that featured drunkenness? I never picked up on that, if evidence of it exists. Reading what we have from regarding all we know from these traditions, alcohol was required, and these were drunken BBQ's with god, where...
by outhouse
Sun Sep 30, 2018 2:07 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Proofs That Jesus Did Not Exist
Replies: 28
Views: 46949

Re: Proofs That Jesus Did Not Exist

First hand accounts of Peter's and/or James' interactions with Jesus: their accounts of events and places those events took place; and/or . Paul or Mark recounting first-hand accounts of say Peter's, James', etc. experiences with Jesus: having recounted events and places to Paul. (interestingly, Pa...
by outhouse
Sun Sep 30, 2018 2:06 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Proofs That Jesus Did Not Exist
Replies: 28
Views: 46949

Re: Argument From InterSECTionality

JoeWallack wrote: Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:40 am ARGUMENT FROM INTERSECTIONALITY
(1) Neal Godfree thinks Israel is racist, apartheid and genocidal.
(2) Therefore, Israel is racist, apartheid and genocidal.
(3) Neal Godfree also thinks that Jesus did not exist.
(4) Therefore, Jesus did not exist.
very true
by outhouse
Sun Sep 30, 2018 2:05 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Proofs That Jesus Did Not Exist
Replies: 28
Views: 46949

Re: Proofs That Jesus Did Not Exist

The mistake that Believers make of course in thinking that they have proved that Jesus existed is that their evidence does not support their conclusion. Faulty reasoning, to the point of being laughable Joe. "Proved" is not really a historical context, and factually all of the NT and non ...