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- Fri Aug 22, 2014 7:39 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Did Jesus Historical Exist?
- Replies: 12
- Views: 7939
Re: Did Jesus Historical Exist?
And is this not by definition a special case? What is dying and rising when it's at home?
- Fri Aug 22, 2014 7:37 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Did Jesus Historical Exist?
- Replies: 12
- Views: 7939
Re: Did Jesus Historical Exist?
Nope - alternative translations for people dying are falling asleep, in your link, and who says the dying happened here recently? Assumptions - what are the first three letters?
- Fri Aug 22, 2014 4:57 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Did Jesus Historical Exist?
- Replies: 12
- Views: 7939
Re: Did Jesus Historical Exist?
Precisely. Where does it say come again or something similar?toejam wrote:^https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?s ... rsion=NRSV
- Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:48 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Did Jesus Historical Exist?
- Replies: 12
- Views: 7939
Re: Did Jesus Historical Exist?
Is anyone able to help with this idea of a second coming? What scriptures actually talk about that, do any just assert that he is coming? What scriptures and where? Have translators assumed it is a second time because that is the theology?
- Thu Aug 21, 2014 12:59 pm
- Forum: Other Texts and History
- Topic: Hagarism
- Replies: 42
- Views: 82406
Re: Hagarism
And on Northern and Southern Arabs, I thought we were talking about an entirely different area - Damascus, Jerusalem down to the Dead Sea.
- Thu Aug 21, 2014 12:06 pm
- Forum: Other Texts and History
- Topic: Hagarism
- Replies: 42
- Views: 82406
Re: Hagarism
From Hagarism 52. In another rather suggestive passage, Leo remarks on the Hagarene disparagement of the Gospels andprophets on the ground that they are falsified, and proceeds to base his argument on a series of scripturalcitations which, he stresses, are from the Pentateuch ( ibid ., tr. Patkanian...
- Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:50 am
- Forum: General Religious Discussion
- Topic: Co-evolution
- Replies: 2
- Views: 6113
Co-evolution
I seem to be working from a sort of evolutionary theory of history! It is quite interactive - x meets y leading to z but both x and y are also changed. Classic examples are by the rivers of Babylon and the septuagint. I would argue that the New World was a very significant change point - OK, things ...
- Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:32 am
- Forum: Other Texts and History
- Topic: Newly Discovered Shrine Pushes Back Date of the Buddha
- Replies: 3
- Views: 10767
Re: Newly Discovered Shrine Pushes Back Date of the Buddha
Are there any Greek influences? Has anyone proposed that The Greeks meeting India caused Buddhism? Arguably the Septuagint caused Christianity, what else might the Greeks have done?
- Thu Aug 21, 2014 9:56 am
- Forum: Other Texts and History
- Topic: Hagarism
- Replies: 42
- Views: 82406
Re: Hagarism
I agree Mohammed means praised and some coins alleged to be Islamic are probably xian, but we are talking about an unformed era - of course there were xian elements, but that does not stop a primary root being Samaritan - the rejection of the prophets is precisely from that. Syncretism! A major issu...
- Thu Aug 21, 2014 8:13 am
- Forum: Other Texts and History
- Topic: Hagarism
- Replies: 42
- Views: 82406
Re: Hagarism
The Battle of Tours (October 732),[27] also called the Battle of Poitiers Wiki I would argue that this army and many similar was actually with people with Hagaric beliefs, not a xian sect. The point is there were other groups apart from Jews and Christians. Samaritans make a lot of sense as the sou...