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by perseusomega9
Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:32 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: theios aner
Replies: 6
Views: 7397

Re: theios aner

also, before I read this, would you say the response in this book is the best and/or closely understood position on Wheedens' book or the theios aner understanding?
by perseusomega9
Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:13 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: theios aner
Replies: 6
Views: 7397

Re: theios aner

:cheers:

thank you Andrew, not only did you provide a source but the whole package!
by perseusomega9
Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:40 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Galatians 3:1 "portrayed as crucified"
Replies: 92
Views: 71768

Re: Galatians 3:1 "portrayed as crucified"

new religion= societal changes resulting from Roman expansion and displacement within communities and resulting in new ways of community structure with respect to the predominant religious cult and imperial authority. Local variation may apply.
by perseusomega9
Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:20 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: theios aner
Replies: 6
Views: 7397

theios aner

I've been reading Wheeden's Mark Traditions in Conflict in which he argues that Mark was arguing against his opponents theios aner (divine man) concept of Jesus. It's a truly fascinating book but I've read hints that the presuppositions that Wheeden brought to it, and the concept of theios aner in C...
by perseusomega9
Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:29 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Johannine epistles as reaction to Marcionism?
Replies: 22
Views: 15042

Re: Johannine epistles as reaction to Marcionism?

davidmartin wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:42 am The problem I see with this is that the pastorals lack any knowledge of a gospel as far as i know and seem more likely to oppose them -
can you unpack the bolded part?
by perseusomega9
Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:15 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Papias and oral tradition.
Replies: 20
Views: 15546

Re: Papias and oral tradition.

I think the better argument is that Judas traditions are 'late' but dependency is hard to determine.
by perseusomega9
Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:14 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Papias and oral tradition.
Replies: 20
Views: 15546

Re: Papias and oral tradition.

But which came first, a Judas tradition or Mark from which more Judas traditions were derived?
by perseusomega9
Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:10 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Papias and oral tradition.
Replies: 20
Views: 15546

Re: Papias and oral tradition.

perseusomega9 wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:00 pm But, IIRC, Papias has details that aren't in the canonical NT tradition about Judas' death.
see the book Ben referenced above Two Shipwrecked Gospels and his discussion of Papias.
by perseusomega9
Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:00 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Papias and oral tradition.
Replies: 20
Views: 15546

Re: Papias and oral tradition.

But, IIRC, Papias has details that aren't in the canonical NT tradition about Judas' death.
by perseusomega9
Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:45 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did Paul found the church in Corinth?
Replies: 16
Views: 10739

Re: Did Paul found the church in Corinth?

Paul clearly hijacked the movement, Mark then clearly made up the character of Jesus. What just puzzles me is why none of the two ever points to the other in any way - that, or it is too subtle for me (and that point of saturation is reached fairly quickly, I can tell you) Mark very clearly points ...