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- Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:06 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Was there a lost ending of Mark?
- Replies: 43
- Views: 7705
Re: Was there a lost ending of Mark?
In any event, I think Mk. 14:21 indicates that Judas didn't die. The Son of Man will go just as it is written about him. But woe to that man who betrays the Son of Man! It would be better for him if he had not been born. To me Jesus is saying that he (Jesus) will die but Judas will live and suffer ...
- Wed Mar 02, 2022 5:34 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Was there a lost ending of Mark?
- Replies: 43
- Views: 7705
Re: Was there a lost ending of Mark?
Evan Powell believed that the 21st chapter of the Gospel of John was actually the final chapter of the Gospel of Mark. Ben discusses that idea the first thread I linked to above and he seems partial to it. Not saying I necessarily agree yet, but this line seems pretty Marcan. John 21:7b When Simon ...
- Sun Feb 27, 2022 1:00 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: When did the Gospels Begin to be interpreted as being biographies?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 990
Re: When did the Gospels Begin to be interpreted as being biographies?
And the prologue to GLuke, if I understand correctly, does not use the word "life", but rather uses language suggesting that it is a summary of what Christians believed. But even in this, it is defective, giving no sources. Did any biographies or histories from the Roman world cite their ...
- Mon Feb 21, 2022 6:58 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: On "brother of the Lord" as a title received by the risen Jesus
- Replies: 27
- Views: 4261
Re: On "brother of the Lord" as a title received by the risen Jesus
@davidlau Well, I am done with you. If you were already persuaded about the authenticity of 'called Christ' in Antiquities 20:200, then there would be no need by you to persuade me that the Paul'sJesus had a carnal brother in virtue of what Paul , and not Josephus, says: you could merely mention yo...
- Mon Feb 21, 2022 6:53 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: On "brother of the Lord" as a title received by the risen Jesus
- Replies: 27
- Views: 4261
Re: On "brother of the Lord" as a title received by the risen Jesus
The fact is our earliest manuscripts of Antiquities include the James passage as written. Thus, the burden of proof is on you (and Carrier) to prove interpolation. Pointing to the later mention of Jesus, son of Damneus does not suffice. Can you provide the date or century to those "earliest ma...
- Mon Feb 21, 2022 6:11 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: On "brother of the Lord" as a title received by the risen Jesus
- Replies: 27
- Views: 4261
Re: On "brother of the Lord" as a title received by the risen Jesus
Is the 1st Apocalypse of James an authoritative source? It's usually dated to the late 2nd century. You continue to ignore the my point. Precisely in virtue of Apocalypse of James being a "gnostic source dated to the late 2nd century" denying that James was brother of the Lord " acco...
- Mon Feb 21, 2022 12:45 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: On "brother of the Lord" as a title received by the risen Jesus
- Replies: 27
- Views: 4261
Re: On "brother of the Lord" as a title received by the risen Jesus
You could perhaps add Hegesippus to the list. Not directly related to James, though, but to descendants of Jude, with those descendants later becoming leaders of the church (at least, according to Eusebius's quote of Hegesippus): http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/hegesippus.html Considerin...
- Sun Feb 20, 2022 11:57 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: On "brother of the Lord" as a title received by the risen Jesus
- Replies: 27
- Views: 4261
Re: On "brother of the Lord" as a title received by the risen Jesus
In the First Apocalypse of James (probably 3rd century), James the Just is called the brother of the Lord, but his brotherhood is spiritual, not physical: "I have given you a sign of these things, James, my brother. For not without reason have I called you my brother, although you are not my b...
- Sun Feb 20, 2022 12:50 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: On "brother of the Lord" as a title received by the risen Jesus
- Replies: 27
- Views: 4261
Re: On "brother of the Lord" as a title received by the risen Jesus
I noticed the more explicit evidence for the honorary title hypothesis always seems to come much later in time, even hundreds of year. That seems like it should raise two concerns: 1- Historical reliability. You'd want sources closer to the event in question. 2- Later development. Couldn't this be ...
- Sun Feb 20, 2022 9:12 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Pilate as Adam ?
- Replies: 8
- Views: 1166
Re: Pilate as Adam ?
I insist: even if the midrash is from Leviticus 16, what escapes clearly to your interpretation is that the "Jesus Son of Unknown Father" (meaning of: Jesus Barabbas) is a Jesus culprit only of not being called "Christ", since his Unknown Father is the god of Marcion. Barabbas m...