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- Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:32 pm
- Forum: General Religious Discussion
- Topic: Tree of the Knowledge of Good & Evil; Free Will
- Replies: 115
- Views: 166708
Re: Tree of the Knowledge of Good & Evil; Free Will
It's not really the tree that's material so much as the idea (from the most remote antiquity) that things like immortality and wisdom could be acquired by eating something. In Gilgamesh, it's a flower that gives immortality. On that note: Cannot place which of the early Church Father's said it, but...
- Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:05 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Picturing the competing grand views of Christian origins
- Replies: 19
- Views: 30050
Re: Picturing the competing grand views of Christian origins
Simplicity! It is the art of true understanding. Nice chart Peter. And Thank you.Peter Kirby wrote:Some possibly-helpful timelines for doing so:
http://peterkirby.com/metanarratives-in ... igins.html
- Tue Nov 26, 2013 12:03 am
- Forum: General Religious Discussion
- Topic: Jesus as a Failed Eschatological Prophet
- Replies: 54
- Views: 73815
Re: Jesus as a Failed Eschatological Prophet
D11. Consider also E.P. Sanders’ argument: the passages that attribute these predictions to Jesus and Paul satisfy the historical criteria of multiple attestation (and forms), embarrassment, earliest strata (Mark, Q, M, L, Paul’s earliest letters, the ancient “Maranatha” creed/hymn) etc., thus stro...
- Sun Nov 24, 2013 3:17 pm
- Forum: General Religious Discussion
- Topic: Tree of the Knowledge of Good & Evil; Free Will
- Replies: 115
- Views: 166708
Re: Tree of the Knowledge of Good & Evil; Free Will
It's not really the tree that's material so much as the idea (from the most remote antiquity) that things like immortality and wisdom could be acquired by eating something. In Gilgamesh, it's a flower that gives immortality. On that note: Cannot place which of the early Church Father's said it, but...
- Sun Nov 24, 2013 3:06 pm
- Forum: General Religious Discussion
- Topic: Tree of the Knowledge of Good & Evil; Free Will
- Replies: 115
- Views: 166708
Re: Tree of the Knowledge of Good & Evil; Free Will
I think our language makes it impossible to give the determinism a fair shake. I mean language is structured to identify a subject ('I') who carries out an action ('write'). But all of this presupposes freedom of will. I think the history of the debate has been unfairly skewed in favor of free will...
- Sun Nov 24, 2013 3:04 pm
- Forum: General Religious Discussion
- Topic: Tree of the Knowledge of Good & Evil; Free Will
- Replies: 115
- Views: 166708
Re: Tree of the Knowledge of Good & Evil; Free Will
I think our language makes it impossible to give the determinism a fair shake. I mean language is structured to identify a subject ('I') who carries out an action ('write'). But all of this presupposes freedom of will. I think the history of the debate has been unfairly skewed in favor of free will...
- Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:09 am
- Forum: General Religious Discussion
- Topic: Tree of the Knowledge of Good & Evil; Free Will
- Replies: 115
- Views: 166708
Re: Tree of the Knowledge of Good & Evil; Free Will
It's not really the tree that's material so much as the idea (from the most remote antiquity) that things like immortality and wisdom could be acquired by eating something. In Gilgamesh, it's a flower that gives immortality. On that note: Cannot place which of the early Church Father's said it, but...
- Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:11 pm
- Forum: General Religious Discussion
- Topic: Strong Atheism - God and Time
- Replies: 11
- Views: 25859
Re: Strong Atheism - God and Time
Jason...this is interesting. I like it and I don't. lol That's a compliment intended. Will have to look into Thomas Aquinas more. Thank you
- Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:05 am
- Forum: General Religious Discussion
- Topic: Tree of the Knowledge of Good & Evil; Free Will
- Replies: 115
- Views: 166708
Re: Tree of the Knowledge of Good & Evil; Free Will
Free will exists for all humans irrespective of religion or lack of it. In any religion God is the master and he cannot be forced to behave like a programmed robot by the behaviour of any human; such as: Give me Paradise for I have been a good Muslim. (Or any other religion) Can any human from any ...
- Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:26 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Jesus Was a "Man's Man" Feminized By the Church
- Replies: 9
- Views: 15507