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by MrMacSon
Tue Apr 19, 2016 8:44 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Quantitative Literary Picture at end of 2nd Century
Replies: 8
Views: 4748

Re: Quantitative Literary Picture at end of 2nd Century

Jonathan J. Armstrong claims the Muratorian Fragment was written in the mid-late 3rd century by Victorinus of Pettau - Armstrong, JJ (2008) 'Victorinus of Pettau as the Author of the Canon Muratori' Vigiliae Christianae Vol. 62, No. 1; pp. 1-34 The abstract is here - http://www.jstor.org/stable/2047...
by MrMacSon
Tue Apr 19, 2016 3:20 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Quantitative Literary Picture at end of 2nd Century
Replies: 8
Views: 4748

Re: Quantitative Literary Picture at end of 2nd Century

I thought this was an interesting commentary in Hills paper relevant to the title of this thread - Albert C. Sundberg ..is said to have shown that the Christian church received from Judaism not a closed OT canon but a “looser collection of sacred writings” (p. 1) *. According to Sundberg, the proces...
by MrMacSon
Tue Apr 19, 2016 2:35 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Quantitative Literary Picture at end of 2nd Century
Replies: 8
Views: 4748

Re: Quantitative Literary Picture at end of 2nd Century

Here is a 1995 paper discussing the then state of play in published articles about the the Muratorian Fragment - C. E. Hill, “The Debate Over the Muratorian Fragment and the Development of the Canon,” Westminster Theological Journal 57:2 (Fall 1995): 437-452. -- http://www.earlychurch.org.uk/pdf/fra...
by MrMacSon
Mon Apr 18, 2016 6:03 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did Paul persecute non-Christians?
Replies: 1
Views: 1503

Did Paul persecute non-Christians?

From another thread, this got me thinking - ... the ..text.. states [Paul] joined a movement in progress and hunted leaders down. A movement widespread . Because Paul's community claims rhetorically he received divine knowledge does not indicate it was the only place Paul learned traditions from. Wa...
by MrMacSon
Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:22 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How Did Paul Know Jesus Was Resurrected?
Replies: 265
Views: 88088

Re: How Did Paul Know Jesus Was Resurrected?

...Let's stick to ancient testimonies and build up from a solid foundation. Yes, your're right. Having re-read the first few pages of this thread I can see You were doing a good job of that before I interrupted (though my intention was only to encourage a 'broad'-mind). I won't interrupt with perip...
by MrMacSon
Mon Apr 18, 2016 12:37 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How Did Paul Know Jesus Was Resurrected?
Replies: 265
Views: 88088

Re: How Did Paul Know Jesus Was Resurrected?

Why would we assume that someone other than Paul invented the resurrection? I don't. I've never before thought about which specific persons (or early Christian 'traditions') might have invented 'the resurrection'. I engaged with you on this ( without reference to those other mobs) in my previous po...
by MrMacSon
Mon Apr 18, 2016 11:54 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How Did Paul Know Jesus Was Resurrected?
Replies: 265
Views: 88088

Re: How Did Paul Know Jesus Was Resurrected?

...the problem I am raising is as follows: 1. there is strong evidence to suggest that Paul claimed to have not been influenced by previous traditions of Christianity 2. how then did he know that Jesus was resurrected? In other words, it can't have been from a written or oral 'report.' Paul must ha...
by MrMacSon
Mon Apr 18, 2016 11:50 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How Did Paul Know Jesus Was Resurrected?
Replies: 265
Views: 88088

Re: How Did Paul Know Jesus Was Resurrected?

I don't like pagan religions beyond thinking that Paul may have been interacting with them and some of their tenets may have found their way into the books of the NT. Based on what? You answered that in your next post - 1. there is strong evidence to suggest that Paul claimed to have not been influ...
by MrMacSon
Mon Apr 18, 2016 11:35 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why the Orthodox Claims About Their Gospels Being First = Ga
Replies: 7
Views: 3830

Re: Why the Orthodox Claims About Their Gospels Being First

All we are left with is heretical claims about the origins of the gospel. Its much better th a n imaginative people trying to create a path where none exist nor can exist. lol. Most if not all of the theology developed in those times involved 'visions' or 'revelations' - it was all about imaginatio...