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by Nathan
Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:23 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Sanhedrin 43a: who is the "herald"?
Replies: 20
Views: 28022

Re: Sanhedrin 43a: who is the "herald"?

Jesus was hanged on Passover Eve. Forty days previously the herald had cried, “He is being led out for stoning, because he has practiced sorcery and led Israel astray and enticed them into apostasy. Whosoever has anything to say in his defense, let him come and declare it.” As nothing was brought f...
by Nathan
Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:16 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Cleverly Devised Myths --- 2 Peter 1:16
Replies: 26
Views: 32464

Re: Cleverly Devised Myths --- 2 Peter 1:16

To what doctrinal camp of Christianity would you place the author of 2 Peter? I suppose it was written by a post-70 CE Christian who was cool with Paul and Jewish Christianity ... to me it sounds like the author could have been a post-70 CE Nazarene Jewish Christian (or someone who was influenced b...
by Nathan
Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:22 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: is Mark a midrash?= the raising of Jairus' girl
Replies: 6
Views: 8569

Re: is Mark a midrash?= the raising of Jairus' girl

MARK 5:38-41= He arrived at the house of the synagogue leader, and viewed the tumult, and them that wept and wailed loudly. When he got there, he asked, “Why make ye much ado and weep? The damsel is not dead, but sleeps.” And they laughed at him as (if he were) ridiculous. But after he’d thrown the...
by Nathan
Sat Jul 14, 2018 9:58 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: is Mark a midrash?= the raising of Jairus' girl
Replies: 6
Views: 8569

Re: is Mark a midrash?= the raising of Jairus' girl

MARK 5:38-41= He arrived at the house of the synagogue leader, and viewed the tumult, and them that wept and wailed loudly. When he got there, he asked, “Why make ye much ado and weep? The damsel is not dead, but sleeps.” And they laughed at him as (if he were) ridiculous. But after he’d thrown the...
by Nathan
Thu Apr 12, 2018 5:24 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Trees, crosses, and outstretched hands.
Replies: 132
Views: 154604

Re: Trees, crosses, and outstretched hands.

Somewhat unrelatedly, Davies' claim that the "Odes do not mention Jesus in any sense " is absurd. When (e.g.) Ode 19 talks of the virgin birth, what or who does he think the odist is referring to? Or when Ode 23 speaks of the "name of the Father ... and of the Son and of the Holy Spi...
by Nathan
Thu Apr 12, 2018 5:13 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Trees, crosses, and outstretched hands.
Replies: 132
Views: 154604

Re: Trees, crosses, and outstretched hands.

Stevan Davies, Spirit Possession and the Origins of Christianity , page 268: One can go further. The Odes do not mention Jesus in any sense. His name is never used, nor do the Odes contain a single one of his sayings, nor do they mention even one event in which the gospels say he participated. The ...
by Nathan
Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:14 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: Achilles Tatius and the Christian eucharist.
Replies: 22
Views: 18742

Re: Achilles Tatius and the Christian eucharist.

The Loeb edition is here: https://ryanfb.github.io/loebolus-data/L045.pdf . The introduction dates the novel to the end of century III. However, papyrus Oxyrhynchus 3836 had not yet been published. Perhaps the date was pushed back to century II solely to accommodate that papyrus. I do not know for ...
by Nathan
Sun Mar 25, 2018 7:52 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: René Salm on AFA to discuss Nazareth
Replies: 24
Views: 23173

Re: René Salm on AFA to discuss Nazareth

The Nazareth discussion suffers from the issue of "absence of evidence is no proof of absence", On the other hand it is more usually harder to claim X if we have no evidence for X . and isn't the "absence of evidence" disputed by the Israel Antiquities Authority? What does the I...
by Nathan
Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:06 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: James 1.1 and 2.1.
Replies: 234
Views: 162630

Re: James 1.1 and 2.1.

With respect to the question of James' author, I would just mention that James has several turns of phrase that suggest a Jewish authorship. Ken has already noted above, albeit dismissively, James' reference to "Abraham our father" (2:21), which is a very common Jewish way of referring to ...
by Nathan
Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:54 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Zeus is the Jewish God.
Replies: 186
Views: 248632

Re: Zeus is the Jewish God.

I want to talk about a crucial rule in Greek, Arabic and Hebrew languages is that a god must always have a 'prefix definite article, for example in the New Testament whenever you will find the name God and look up the Greek it is written 'ὁ Θεός , the article is ὁ and in Arabic it is AL, thus the G...