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by Bernard Muller
Sat Nov 08, 2014 8:48 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Only Fantastically Amazing People Think We Have The Ur-Canon
Replies: 452
Views: 157592

Re: Only Fantastically Amazing People Think We Have The Ur-C

to Huller, Google "Origen" and "Marcion" and "eunuch" that will be Matthew 19 I did that and found the part of Origen's commentary on Matthew about Mt 19:12. But before I come to the interpretation of this verse, it has yet to be said that Marcion, if he had acted with ...
by Bernard Muller
Sat Nov 08, 2014 6:23 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Only Fantastically Amazing People Think We Have The Ur-Canon
Replies: 452
Views: 157592

Re: Only Fantastically Amazing People Think We Have The Ur-C

So you aren't happy with the evidence of an accredited scholar citing from primary sources identified and noted as footnotes in the original source which I linked in the post? Come on now Bernard, this is ridiculous. What primary sources? Just display these four gospel verses with their original te...
by Bernard Muller
Sat Nov 08, 2014 4:09 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Only Fantastically Amazing People Think We Have The Ur-Canon
Replies: 452
Views: 157592

Re: Only Fantastically Amazing People Think We Have The Ur-C

I used to lie a lot. I attribute it to unused creativity and the need to get laid. I make it a point to be honest even if it hurts now. But as someone who has lied I can say that once you start lying you might start off telling reasonable lies but in the heat of the moment you end up coming up with...
by Bernard Muller
Sat Nov 08, 2014 12:44 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Only Fantastically Amazing People Think We Have The Ur-Canon
Replies: 452
Views: 157592

Re: Only Fantastically Amazing People Think We Have The Ur-C

to Huller, So finally you get around to answering this and this is the best you can come up with? What is there more to say than what I cited. What is the primary evidence for these 4 verses? original quotes are required, with evidenced explanations why these verses from Origen, Marcus and Ephrem's ...
by Bernard Muller
Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:17 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Only Fantastically Amazing People Think We Have The Ur-Canon
Replies: 452
Views: 157592

Re: Only Fantastically Amazing People Think We Have The Ur-C

to Huller, Not that's not true I have demonstrated that Marcion's gospel was Diatessaron you have conveniently avoided referencing the evidence up until now. Here it is again. Hopefully you won't be scared of it after I repost it in every thread for the next two years: If Marcion had designed a fixe...
by Bernard Muller
Sat Nov 08, 2014 12:06 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Only Fantastically Amazing People Think We Have The Ur-Canon
Replies: 452
Views: 157592

Re: Only Fantastically Amazing People Think We Have The Ur-C

As such the fact that YOUR gospels were unknown in the Middle East until the fifth century the separated gospel form can't be original. Are you serious about that statement? What about Eusebius, for example? Is not Palestine in the middle East? If you think not, how do you define Middle East? Maybe...
by Bernard Muller
Fri Nov 07, 2014 5:28 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Only Fantastically Amazing People Think We Have The Ur-Canon
Replies: 452
Views: 157592

Re: Only Fantastically Amazing People Think We Have The Ur-C

Irenaeus's claims about 'according to Luke' are dubious (i.e. that the Marcionite gospel is 'Luke' in some form) Irenaeus wrote no more than 20 years after Marcion died. So I think he is a good witness on Marcion. Others around Irenaeus knew also about Marcion and what he had as base texts for his ...
by Bernard Muller
Fri Nov 07, 2014 5:08 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Only Fantastically Amazing People Think We Have The Ur-Canon
Replies: 452
Views: 157592

Re: Only Fantastically Amazing People Think We Have The Ur-C

Again as long as we don't try to address the massively significant 'harmonizing' that must have taken place when Irenaeus fused four gospels to fit together as one we allow for the uncritical acceptance of the fourfold gospel 'just as they are now.' I would argue that the evidence on balance sugges...
by Bernard Muller
Fri Nov 07, 2014 4:56 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Only Fantastically Amazing People Think We Have The Ur-Canon
Replies: 452
Views: 157592

Re: Only Fantastically Amazing People Think We Have The Ur-C

1. Matthew - Epiphanius reports a tradition that the Gospel according to the Hebrews = the Diatessaron. Hence 'according to Matthew' may have a Diatessaronic original. Epiphanius, 4th century? You are like Irenaeus and many others jumping on dubious evidence and adopting it if it supports your agen...
by Bernard Muller
Fri Nov 07, 2014 4:22 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Only Fantastically Amazing People Think We Have The Ur-Canon
Replies: 452
Views: 157592

Re: Only Fantastically Amazing People Think We Have The Ur-C

But there was an Alexandrian Diatessaron in existence before 195 CE and Clement mentions 'short' and 'long' versions of Mark. Yes, so what? That does not say which came first. Let's start with the question of why the Transfiguration isn't included in the gospel when John was an eyewitness and the g...