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by Ben C. Smith
Sat Apr 24, 2021 5:17 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Indisputable Historical Facts About Early Christianity
Replies: 113
Views: 27251

Re: Indisputable Historical Facts About Early Christianity

Aleph One wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 4:46 pmFrom what I've read he uses the same word for "club" as he uses to describe the Christians'...
Correct. The word is hetaeria, a loanword from the Greek ἑταιρεία.
by Ben C. Smith
Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:13 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Indisputable Historical Facts About Early Christianity
Replies: 113
Views: 27251

Re: Indisputable Historical Facts About Early Christianity

I'm unsure of where the patristics fall on this: anyone know? I know I have come across references to nomina sacra in manuscripts of the church fathers. Recently, for example, I became aware that Latin manuscripts of Cyprian bear nomina sacra . What I do not know is whether the practice was as univ...
by Ben C. Smith
Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:03 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Indisputable Historical Facts About Early Christianity
Replies: 113
Views: 27251

Re: Indisputable Historical Facts About Early Christianity

I'm unsure of where the patristics fall on this: anyone know? I know I have come across references to nomina sacra in manuscripts of the church fathers. Recently, for example, I became aware that Latin manuscripts of Cyprian bear nomina sacra . What I do not know is whether the practice was as univ...
by Ben C. Smith
Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:12 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Hegesippus vis-a-vis "James son of Alphaeus" and "Judas of James" in Luke-Acts
Replies: 22
Views: 5526

Re: Hegesippus vis-a-vis "James son of Alphaeus" and "Judas of James" in Luke-Acts

Also, I don't see that Hegesippus said anything to directly contradict my reading of the James of Acts 15 being James, son of Alphaeus. James the Just worked "in the assembly with the apostles" is all Hegesippus says. Am I missing something? I do not know whether you are missing anything,...
by Ben C. Smith
Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:56 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The tetrarchies in Luke 3.1-2.
Replies: 21
Views: 8379

Re: The tetrarchies in Luke 3.1-2.

But is Luke 3:1-2 really dependent on Matthew, or rather is Matthew 14:1 dependent on Luke 3:1? It seems to me that it is more likely that Matthew 14:1 draws from Luke 3:1, which would show that this was a part of proto-Luke, from which Matthew derived his Gospel. Why do you think that direction is...
by Ben C. Smith
Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:42 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Indisputable Historical Facts About Early Christianity
Replies: 113
Views: 27251

Re: Indisputable Historical Facts About Early Christianity

12: The Gospel of John is by far the most popular of the NT material that we have at 32 copies. gMatthew is a close second at 24. Then it is Acts at 17, then gLuke and Romans at 12, then Hebrews at 10, Then 1 Corinthians 8, Revelation 7, then 2 Corinthians, Ephesians, and James at 5 each. Then you ...
by Ben C. Smith
Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:37 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Indisputable Historical Facts About Early Christianity
Replies: 113
Views: 27251

Re: Indisputable Historical Facts About Early Christianity

12: The Gospel of John is by far the most popular of the NT material that we have at 32 copies. gMatthew is a close second at 24. Then it is Acts at 17, then gLuke and Romans at 12, then Hebrews at 10, Then 1 Corinthians 8, Revelation 7, then 2 Corinthians, Ephesians, and James at 5 each. Then you ...
by Ben C. Smith
Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:35 am
Forum: Other Texts and History
Topic: Secret Mark, GRS Mead and Morton Smith
Replies: 21
Views: 49197

Re: Secret Mark, GRS Mead and Morton Smith

When you have a moment Ben do be a dear and attempt to summarize the relevant arguments I overlooked which point to Smith specifically as the forger. What good would that do? When I name an argument which has been used which does not appear on your list, you have three options: either (A) say, &quo...
by Ben C. Smith
Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:04 am
Forum: Other Texts and History
Topic: Secret Mark, GRS Mead and Morton Smith
Replies: 21
Views: 49197

Re: Secret Mark, GRS Mead and Morton Smith

The argument for forgery runs something like this: 1. nothing extraordinary ever happens to anyone 2. Morton Smith discovered something extraordinary 3. the discovery of something extraordinary in a drab boring universe is ground for suspicion that what he found was a forgery 4. forgeries are made ...
by Ben C. Smith
Thu Apr 22, 2021 9:13 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Indisputable Historical Facts About Early Christianity
Replies: 113
Views: 27251

Re: Indisputable Historical Facts About Early Christianity

Interesting! Are there any other examples of this with other NS in this text? Yes! The word θεός is reduced to Θ, too. It is a small fragment, so it appears those are the only nomina sacra . Both οὐρανέ and Ἰσραήλ occur in a profane sense, so an abbreviation would not necessarily be expected in tho...