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- Mon Feb 09, 2015 6:44 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Who was the first person to claim Jesus never exsisted?
- Replies: 112
- Views: 53510
Re: Who was the first person to claim Jesus never exsisted?
Forgive me for belaboring this point. However, I think it is pertinent to determining if there was a historical Jesus. Can anyone provide a clear-cut example of an ancient author that asserted that Jesus never, ever existed? Not to be confused with someone who wrote they did not believe in the mira...
- Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:49 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Simon, from Cyrene.
- Replies: 110
- Views: 94432
Re: Simon, from Cyrene.
Hypotheses that provide avenues for investigation come from speculation That's it, of course. Some of these speculations can cause us to look at the evidence we do have in a new light, or can make sense of new discoveries. The application of historical method does not entail the relinquishing of im...
- Sat Feb 07, 2015 4:48 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Paul indicated Jesus was crucified on earth.
- Replies: 23
- Views: 15572
Re: Paul indicated Jesus was crucified on earth.
to cienfuegos, The question though is what does Paul mean when he uses the term? One point, and I do think I was wrong on my initial reaction, but I think "stumbling stone" refers to the Law (for Paul, not the OT). "But Israel, pursuing after a law of righteousness, has not attained ...
- Fri Feb 06, 2015 7:29 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Paul indicated Jesus was crucified on earth.
- Replies: 23
- Views: 15572
Re: Paul indicated Jesus was crucified on earth.
to cienfuegos, I am not sure how we can conclude (note I said "not sure") that "Zion" in Isaiah 28:16 doesn't refer to "Israel" as a community of people, just as the Suffering Servant is thought to be an allegory for Israel. Isn't the stumbling block the gospel that fr...
- Fri Feb 06, 2015 6:17 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: What's a Cumulative Case?
- Replies: 24
- Views: 24782
Re: What's a Cumulative Case?
Is he logically flawed in such a way that it changes the output? Perhaps so. Well that is my point here. It is subjective. His lack of biblical education, to me is a serious flaw for one to input that ignorance into a math equation. I would bet it is easy to use that same methodology on a historica...
- Fri Feb 06, 2015 6:33 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Paul indicated Jesus was crucified on earth.
- Replies: 23
- Views: 15572
Re: Paul indicated Jesus was crucified on earth.
Strangely enough, on that forum, I often provided the link for my blog post on "Paul indicated Jesus was crucified on earth", but I never got any reaction. Here is the blog post in question, its title and its introduction: http://historical-jesus.info/19.html >> Is there evidence in Paul'...
- Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:45 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: What's a Cumulative Case?
- Replies: 24
- Views: 24782
Re: What's a Cumulative Case?
to cienfuegos, I don't see where you have proposed different probabilities. How do these points change the numbers in the Bayesian calculations? A lot of people have criticized the Rank-Raglan prior, including me at first, but I think ultimately Carrier made his case on that(and a lot of critics ju...
- Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:21 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Parallelomania (parallels between OT/NT & other traditions)
- Replies: 37
- Views: 22260
Re: Parallelomania (parallels between OT/NT & other traditio
It seems to be amenable to statistical probability, and if so, would be more explicit, rigorous and testable in such a form. I guess one would need to associate various probabilities to the matching of low/medium/high words/phrases and start crunching. Have you tried that? You'd have to find a comp...
- Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:42 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: What's a Cumulative Case?
- Replies: 24
- Views: 24782
Re: What's a Cumulative Case?
to cienfuegos, So instead of making vacuous assertions about the flaws in Carrier's theory, show us why you are right, he is wrong and how that changes the calculations. Maybe it will? I did that (proving him wrong on many points). And you will find my criticism of Carrier if you click here http://...
- Thu Feb 05, 2015 4:56 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: What's a Cumulative Case?
- Replies: 24
- Views: 24782
Re: What's a Cumulative Case?
examine each point in a Bayesian way To me, it fails miserably. When interpretation of evidence is subjective, math is not a useful tool. Carriers attempt and results proved this beyond a shadow of doubt. What is the rationale for an argument of "cumulative weight"? It is everything in to...