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by StephenGoranson
Fri Apr 05, 2024 7:25 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Even Joseph Turmel concluded that Matthew had falsified *Ev
Replies: 23
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Re: Even Joseph Turmel concluded that Matthew had falsified *Ev

Giuseppe, you may feel "justified to suspect" as you wish, but the fact remains that several scholars of various backgrounds interpret Marcion as having altered a pre-existing gLuke.
by StephenGoranson
Wed Apr 03, 2024 2:00 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: HISTORY AND THE GOSPEL JESUS
Replies: 11
Views: 313

Re: HISTORY AND THE GOSPEL JESUS

Charles, my post explicitly addressed Hasmonean history.
by StephenGoranson
Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:17 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: Misdating Jesus to Jannaeus' era may be due to a confusion of Jesus with the Qumran Teacher of Righteousness...
Replies: 13
Views: 376

Re: Misdating Jesus to Jannaeus' era may be due to a confusion of Jesus with the Qumran Teacher of Righteousness...

Andrew, as you know, we don't have all traditions that were available to some ancients. For example, text finds near Jericho mentioned by Origen (and that same find may have also been later mentioned by Joseph [of Tiberias?] in Hypomnestikon and also the many texts mentioned by 9th-century Timothy I...
by StephenGoranson
Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:56 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: HISTORY AND THE GOSPEL JESUS
Replies: 11
Views: 313

Re: HISTORY AND THE GOSPEL JESUS

Compare Judah in 1QpHab 8:1-3
by StephenGoranson
Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:06 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: HISTORY AND THE GOSPEL JESUS
Replies: 11
Views: 313

Re: HISTORY AND THE GOSPEL JESUS

Anyway, I think he was too late to be the Qumran-view Wicked Priest, because
a) paleographic estimates
b) C14 date ranges
c) analysis of contemporaries
d) personal characteristics, or lack
and because
e) Alexander Jannaeus was already the Wicked Priest.
by StephenGoranson
Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:03 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: HISTORY AND THE GOSPEL JESUS
Replies: 11
Views: 313

Re: HISTORY AND THE GOSPEL JESUS

"fondness" and "Wicked Priest"--hmm.
by StephenGoranson
Wed Apr 03, 2024 7:59 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: Misdating Jesus to Jannaeus' era may be due to a confusion of Jesus with the Qumran Teacher of Righteousness...
Replies: 13
Views: 376

Re: Misdating Jesus to Jannaeus' era may be due to a confusion of Jesus with the Qumran Teacher of Righteousness...

Qumran texts tell of a conflict between the Wicked Priest and the Teacher of Righteousness, and also mention that Absalom did not help the Teacher when he was aggrieved. I think the Wicked Priest was Alexander Jannaeus. (Strabo, Geography 16.2.34-46, while favorable toward Moses and followers, also ...
by StephenGoranson
Wed Apr 03, 2024 5:24 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: HISTORY AND THE GOSPEL JESUS
Replies: 11
Views: 313

Re: HISTORY AND THE GOSPEL JESUS

The civil war between his father and his uncle split the populace, so a claim that the masses supported him is iffy. Also, the proposal, which I think is mistaken, that he was called "The Wicked Priest" in 4QpesherNahum, if you accept it, hardly helps your story. And, if he was spur for NT...