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by Giuseppe
Thu May 07, 2020 10:28 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: John the Baptist was interpolated in Josephus to distinguish him from the Samaritan Prophet
Replies: 46
Views: 49093

Re: John the Baptist was interpolated in Josephus to distinguish him from the Samaritan Prophet

Zebedee and Dositheus and John share the same meaning: YHWH gives gift/grace. If John the Baptist was Zebedee, then the sons of Zebedee, James and John are the sons of John the Baptist. The arrest of John the Baptist and the episode of Zebedee being left with the hirelings on the boat share a thing ...
by Giuseppe
Thu May 07, 2020 12:06 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Prof Vinzent: why Marcion created Christianity
Replies: 7
Views: 5174

Re: Prof Vinzent: why Marcion created Christianity

Hence, I see 3 interests in game: 1) Marcion wanted zero witnesses of the ascent to confirm that Jesus was the Light from a supreme god (not YHWH) appearing to give life to a new creation (per Genesis 1). 2) Tertullian, Origen want zero witnesses, apart the Baptist, to confirm that only OT prophets ...
by Giuseppe
Wed May 06, 2020 9:45 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Prof Vinzent: why Marcion created Christianity
Replies: 7
Views: 5174

Re: Prof Vinzent: why Marcion created Christianity

What strikes me about the incipit of Marcion, is the probable midrash from the Genesis: Fiat lux. Et lux fuit. Interpreted, obviously, according to the distorted Gnostic exegesis of Genesis, with the Light coming from a supreme god who is distinct from the (evil) creator, and the Serpent as friend ...
by Giuseppe
Wed May 06, 2020 9:14 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Prof Vinzent: why Marcion created Christianity
Replies: 7
Views: 5174

Re: Prof Vinzent: why Marcion created Christianity

What strikes me about the incipit of Marcion, is the probable midrash from the Genesis: Fiat lux. Et lux fuit. Interpreted, obviously, according to the distorted Gnostic exegesis of Genesis, with the Light coming from a supreme god who is distinct from the (evil) creator, and the Serpent as friend ...
by Giuseppe
Wed May 06, 2020 9:09 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Prof Vinzent: why Marcion created Christianity
Replies: 7
Views: 5174

Re: Prof Vinzent: why Marcion created Christianity

What strikes me about the incipit of Marcion, is the probable midrash from the Genesis: Fiat lux. Et lux fuit. Interpreted, obviously, according to the distorted Gnostic exegesis of Genesis, with the Light coming from a supreme god who is distinct from the (evil) creator, and the Serpent as friend o...
by Giuseppe
Tue May 05, 2020 9:00 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why Paul is missing in the Gospels
Replies: 33
Views: 29387

Re: Why Paul is missing in the Gospels

Without disturbing Judas, you have already a parody of Paul behind the Gerasene demonic. So again, the rule is, if you want to sell a Gospel: don't mention explicitly Paul.
by Giuseppe
Tue May 05, 2020 11:58 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Prof Vinzent: why Marcion created Christianity
Replies: 7
Views: 5174

Re: Prof Vinzent: why Marcion created Christianity

Heracleon was the same guy who connected Capernaum with Sheol. Now, I learn that he wrote a commentary on Marcion's Gospel, too. To us, the fact that Tertullian is the first commentator on any preserved Gospel is most important, only preceded in this regard by Heracleon who wrote two commentaries: o...
by Giuseppe
Tue May 05, 2020 11:07 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Prof Vinzent: why Marcion created Christianity
Replies: 7
Views: 5174

Re: Prof Vinzent: why Marcion created Christianity

About YHWH according to Marcion: This God, however, is perceived by Marcion as the antithesis to the God of Israel – the judging, war-mongering creator god of the Torah, the Prophets, and apocalyptic writings like Daniel . In his place, Marcion crowns the God of the new edict of peace and love of en...
by Giuseppe
Tue May 05, 2020 11:02 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Prof Vinzent: why Marcion created Christianity
Replies: 7
Views: 5174

Re: Prof Vinzent: why Marcion created Christianity

where Tertullian claims that he is essentially a mythicist: According to Tertullian, Marcion’s choice to describe Jesus’s beginning as an "appearance", "suggests a sudden and unexpected sight" and implies fixing one’s eyes on "a thing which has at that instance appeared"...