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by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:05 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article
Replies: 132
Views: 6683

Re: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article

Well, unless we can speculate a very convincing reason, I think Occam’s razor still cuts through to the much simpler explanation that the passage actually was original to Josephus I think that you have not read my confession here , where I have given up to doubt about the authenticity of the Baptis...
by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:00 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article
Replies: 132
Views: 6683

Re: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article

My TF page also has the obvious claims/arguments about how this may or may not be comparable. Pallas was famous.

Arguably this pushes the question more towards how well known Jesus was, rather than how impossible the reference is on its own, independent of that.
by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:00 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article
Replies: 132
Views: 6683

Re: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article

My TF page also has this: There is at least one other occasion in which Josephus identies an individual by identifying his brother and in which this brother is not mentioned earlier in the text. Wars of the Jews 2.247. "After this Caesar sent Felix, the brother of Pallas, to be procurator of Ga...
by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 22, 2024 4:57 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article
Replies: 132
Views: 6683

Re: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article

Sure. References from Josephus similar to the phrase "one whose name was James," where there is also no noun phrase that it modifies, include Ant. 10.6.1, Ant. 11.5.4, Ant. 14.9.4, and Life 56.
by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:32 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion
Replies: 37
Views: 664

Re: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion

I would like it if the Beginning of the Gospel of Christ Jesus text had al kinds of material that was omitted from the other gospel texts. 'The spirit is willing, but the evidence is weak.' Help my unbelief here. Does the idea that there was this kind of material in it have anything going for it?
by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:11 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion
Replies: 37
Views: 664

Re: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion

I'm willing to grant your hidden gospel hypothesis.
by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:10 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion
Replies: 37
Views: 664

Re: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion

Secret Alias wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:41 pm I could post all of them but I don't want to distract from Peter's point. Bye.
I have a point? I'm looking for a better answer, not to prove a point.
by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:09 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion
Replies: 37
Views: 664

Re: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion

Secret Alias wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:37 pm What is the point of discussing Luke in relation to Marcion? What is the value in this? They didn't think Luke wrote the gospel. They attributed that to Paul THE apostle.
Can we say anything about what was in the gospel attributed to Paul that can shed more light on the subject?
by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:32 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion
Replies: 37
Views: 664

Re: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion

SA, sure, a word to the wise is sufficient here. And yet...

Are you trying to help me with the question in the OP? Maybe I am too dense to see the answer or the development towards one.