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by Kapyong
Sat Mar 24, 2018 3:39 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: René Salm on AFA to discuss Nazareth
Replies: 24
Views: 23110

Re: René Salm on AFA to discuss Nazareth

For anyone who is interested -

Sadly, it did not go well at AFA :(
Here is what Neil Godfrey had to say about it :

Discovering Why “Even Atheists” Deplore Jesus Mythicism. (Or, Thoughts on “Cult Atheism”)

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by Kapyong
Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:48 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 1st & 2nd C writers who missed Christianity
Replies: 74
Views: 63520

Re: 1st & 2nd C writers who missed Christianity

Back to Mithras -

The list above helps us to compare the historical claims made about Jesus Christ vs the historical record.

But there are NO historical claims about Mithras to even compare.

Mithras is irrelevant here.


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by Kapyong
Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:35 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 1st & 2nd C writers who missed Christianity
Replies: 74
Views: 63520

Re: 1st & 2nd C writers who missed Christianity

Look -

It is simply not correct to claim that ANYONE ever thought Christianity was a myth.

Perhaps pavurcn meant to refer to claims that Christianity was BASED on a myth - a different thing.

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by Kapyong
Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:30 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 1st & 2nd C writers who missed Christianity
Replies: 74
Views: 63520

Re: 1st & 2nd C writers who missed Christianity

Gday all :) This thread began with "There were plenty of 1st and 2nd century historians or authors who might have mentioned early Christianity or Jesus of Nazareth, but didn't." Now we can say "There were plenty of 1st and 2nd century historians or authors who might have mentioned the...
by Kapyong
Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:27 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 1st & 2nd C writers who missed Christianity
Replies: 74
Views: 63520

Re: 1st & 2nd C writers who missed Christianity

Gday all :) For such rebuffs to be made, there first must come the accusation, unless you want to argue that the writers were refuting claims precognizant of their being made. The issue is whether Jesus Christ was a myth or not, not whether Christianity was a myth. There are no claims that Christian...
by Kapyong
Sun Mar 18, 2018 1:52 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 1st & 2nd C writers who missed Christianity
Replies: 74
Views: 63520

Re: 1st & 2nd C writers who missed Christianity

Gday all :) Thank you Kapyong. How interesting that practically every pagan historian seems to have missed the Roman cult of Mithras despite its astonishing expansion in the 2d c. CE. Even Marcus Aurelius didn't even bring it up apparently. Yet no one would deny it popularity, or say it was merely a...
by Kapyong
Fri Mar 16, 2018 6:19 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 1st & 2nd C writers who missed Christianity
Replies: 74
Views: 63520

Re: 1st & 2nd C writers who missed Christianity

Gday andrewcriddle :) You should probably distinguish between mentions of the Persian god Mithras and mentions of the religion of Mithraism. (The earliest mention of Mithraism is probably Statius in the Thebaid.) Andrew Criddle Actually, there seems to be little of value there in terms of historicit...
by Kapyong
Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:24 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 1st & 2nd C writers who missed Christianity
Replies: 74
Views: 63520

Re: 1st & 2nd C writers who missed Christianity

Gday pavurcb and all :) I wonder how many of the cited writers mentioned the Mithras cult. That might be an illuminating statistic. Well, here is the raw list of writers who mention Mithras : Herodotus Xenophon Strabo Plutarch Justin Martyr Lucian of Samosata Celsus Claudian Julian Eunapius Dio Cass...
by Kapyong
Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:09 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 1st & 2nd C writers who missed Christianity
Replies: 74
Views: 63520

Re: 1st & 2nd C writers who missed Christianity

Gday StephenGoranson, whoops, sorry I missed this - Kapyong, do you claim that your 18 listed referencers to Mani contain "historical markers like a date or a place etc." each of which more reliable than Paul? No, I don't claim that. It's just a straight comparison of any mentions. Kapyong
by Kapyong
Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:07 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 1st & 2nd C writers who missed Christianity
Replies: 74
Views: 63520

Re: 1st & 2nd C writers who missed Christianity

Gday all :) Here is a shameless plug for my most recent list of who Coulda, Woulda, Shoulda (mentioned Jesus), which Vridar mentioned recently. With the rating system. It starts back on page 3 : http://earlywritings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=75442#p75442 The current version is maintained here : Earl...