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- Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:30 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Back to the Nazareth Issue
- Replies: 26
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Re: Some incontrovertible facts about Nazareth
I frown at everyone who even mentions Q, let alone bases anything on it as it simply doesn't exist, but for the rest I agree completely You keep frowning. But do try to understand the chronological significance that was indicated. The shared material between Mt & Lk indicates a commonality betw...
- Mon Jan 31, 2022 6:27 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Why Paul never quotes Jesus
- Replies: 172
- Views: 34957
Re: Why Paul never quotes Jesus
Paul's ritual meal has been turned into a Last Supper with the close citation from Luke's gospel. The dependence of that on Mark is evident, so the origin of 1 Cor 11:23b-25 is based on that chain, Mark > Luke > 1 Cor. One cannot justify any other trajectory based on a linguistic analysis of 1 Cor ...
- Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:45 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Back to the Nazareth Issue
- Replies: 26
- Views: 5246
Some incontrovertible facts about Nazareth
1. Paul doesn't evince any knowledge of Nazareth. Q doesn't evince any knowledge of Nazareth. And the synoptics share no common reference to Nazareth. These simple pointers show that Nazareth was not in the earliest Jesus traditions . (Whereas Capernaum is found in Q and in the Marcan descendents' ...
- Fri Jan 28, 2022 3:25 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Why Paul never quotes Jesus
- Replies: 172
- Views: 34957
Re: Why Paul never quotes Jesus
The subject we were dealing with was the relationship between 1 Cor 11:23b-25 and the last supper accounts in the synoptic gospels!
- Thu Jan 27, 2022 10:01 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Why Paul never quotes Jesus
- Replies: 172
- Views: 34957
Re: Why Paul never quotes Jesus
We need evidence, not assertions.schillingklaus wrote: ↑Thu Jan 27, 2022 9:55 pm No, there is no dependence ofg the Lukan cena on Mark's but on prior pre-canonical sources. Only Markan priorists hallucinate a dependence of the Lukan cena on the Markan one.
- Thu Jan 27, 2022 4:39 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Why Paul never quotes Jesus
- Replies: 172
- Views: 34957
Re: Why Paul never quotes Jesus
IIUC, spin's claim is that Paul's Last Supper narrative (1 Cor 11:23-26) was inserted into the Pauline corpus by someone who wrote or at least knew the Last Supper narrative of the Gospels (primarily Luke). Paul's ritual meal has been turned into a Last Supper with the close citation from Luke's go...
- Thu Jan 27, 2022 1:10 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The use of κυριος in Paul's letters
- Replies: 5
- Views: 1740
Re: The use of κυριος in Paul's letters
the confession that Jesus is Lord I confess Pilate is governor. And Caiaphas is high priest. And Jesus is messiah. And Johanan is rabbi. And even the sky is blue. And grass is green. But not Hillary is president. Nor Biden is Trump. Nor Van Damme is governator. I've rewritten the section concerning...
- Wed Jan 26, 2022 4:00 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The use of κυριος in Paul's letters
- Replies: 5
- Views: 1740
Re: The use of κυριος in Paul's letters
On rereading this stuff after several hours I noticed quite a few things that needed clarification or expansion, so I've made numerous minor changes. Maybe more to come. Hoping the argument is clearer.
- Wed Jan 26, 2022 6:59 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Why Paul never quotes Jesus
- Replies: 172
- Views: 34957
Re: Why Paul never quotes Jesus
I just find it strange that you used " (sayings of) the Lord" suggesting that Paul uses "the Lord" (the Jewish substitute for YHWH) regarding Jesus. A major passage supporting that usage is 1 Cor 11:23ff (the other being 1 Cor 6:14, disrupting the rhetorical structure of its con...
- Wed Jan 26, 2022 6:51 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The use of κυριος in Paul's letters
- Replies: 5
- Views: 1740
The use of κυριος in Paul's letters
The Lord v. my lord Over the years I have tried without success to convince people to be wary of identifying the "Lord", without qualification, as Jesus in Paul's letters. Despite phrases such as "my lord Jesus Christ", the logic for not identifying Jesus with "the Lord&quo...