Biblical Criticism & History Forum - earlywritings.com

. Brian Buthane wrote on ' Jesus Before the Gospels: How the Earliest Christians Remembered, Changed, and Invented Their Stories of the Savior ' and concepts arising out of it - http://www.macleans.ca/society/life/did-jesus-really-exist-2/ Now, for the first time, one of America’s most prominent Ne...

- that is bare assertion. That is a fallacious thing to say, when it factually is not bare, and based on the evidence textual studied. Had it been my own imaginative claim, or pet theory, you would be correct. Yes, bare assertion is a fallacy. Perhaps you ough to provide the evidence, rather than t...

Essentially asserting Paul was written in the 50s and Mark et al were written in the 70s-90s reflects a bandwagon effect. No it reflects the current state of academia and the evidence used to propose such dates. What evidence? (I contend that biblical "scholars" have settled on the termin...

According to Criddle here the original text likely goes back to Justin. I agree. Justin had an ideosyncratic gospel text. I think Irenaeus was editor B. There may have been another editor. Tertullian a Montanist gave the text's final form in Latin. Tertullian gave indications & allusions as to ...

From Jerome's Apology Against Rufinus (Book II) 12. "...Now I find among many bad things written by Origen the following most distinctly heretical: "that the Son of God is a creature, that the Holy Spirit is a servant: 'that there are innumerable worlds, succeeding one another in eternal a...

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But accusations are flying -

• "Eusebius, it seems, has depraved these books"
  
  "my 'friend', who accuses Origen, and who is 'so careful' of my 'reputation', declares that both Eusebius and I have gone wrong together"

Her is a link Jerome's Apology Against Rufinus (Book I) - http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/27101.htm Addressed to Pammachius and Marcella from Bethlehem, A.D. 402. The documents which Jerome had before him when he wrote his Apology were (1) Rufinus' Translation of Pamphilus' Apology with the Prefac...

From Jerome's Apology Against Rufinus (Book I) - ...I am called in this Preface brother and colleague, yet my supposed crimes are set forth openly, and it is proclaimed that I have written in favour of Origen, and have by my praises exalted him to the skies. The writer says that he has done this wit...

... we've got to stop pretending that the texts of the early Church weren't corrupted. The body of early Christian writings, to use the original analogy, highly fuckable material and so - the material undoubtedly succumbed to rape. If you don't like my analogies or language there is always Jerome's...

My point was simply why do we pretend "Clement" is Clement, "Paul" is Paul, "Mark" is Mark. Exactly. We've jumped on the bandwagon. I dunno, however, if it is "just an inner psychological reflex". I've known you for a while. You always toy with this retarded ...