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- Fri Oct 10, 2014 11:42 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Tide Turns
- Replies: 63
- Views: 42301
Re: The Tide Turns
No, Ulan is not joking. He wishes to assure us of his sincere opinion, that a text... represents history, in some fashion, not fiction. It is as if I spoke Chinese. The text makes historical claims . Which you can check against other texts. Why don't you try and address what I said, not what you th...
- Fri Oct 10, 2014 11:09 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Can Richard Carrier be trusted to write the truth?
- Replies: 161
- Views: 88558
Re: Can Richard Carrier be trusted to write the truth?
Please note all the false assumptions Carrier made about Ehrman and then notice he did not cite any examples to prove Ehrman was wrong. So, it looks like Carrier is just imagining things that Ehrman wrote, likewise Carrier is imagining he proved Ehrman wrong on those things imagined. At what point ...
- Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:27 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Galatians 3:1 Jesus crucified in Galatia?
- Replies: 121
- Views: 49532
Re: Galatians 3:1 Jesus crucified in Galatia?
That's the explanation I heard. Paul might have been the crucified star in his own drama, with which he moved from town to town.Stephan Huller wrote:the Passion Play suggestion is very interesting...
- Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:24 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Can Richard Carrier be trusted to write the truth?
- Replies: 161
- Views: 88558
Re: Can Richard Carrier be trusted to write the truth?
The common theme of most of these bizarre theories is that Jesus is a myth patterned after the dying and rising gods of ancient myths, e.g. Osiris, Hercules, Mithras, etc... This thread is about Carrier. He does not claim any such thing. Ehrman points out there is no evidence that pagans prior to J...
- Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:32 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Can Richard Carrier be trusted to write the truth?
- Replies: 161
- Views: 88558
Re: Can Richard Carrier be trusted to write the truth?
Who knows? I just visited the cave where he was raised and later buried. I didn't have a spade to look for his diaries though.John T wrote:Would anyone try to sell the Diary of Zeus as non-fiction?
- Fri Oct 10, 2014 3:14 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Tide Turns
- Replies: 63
- Views: 42301
Re: The Tide Turns
Yes, I meant the naming of historical figures within the texts, which gives the texts the air of history, which of course doesn't mean that it is history, but gives you a rough pointer of where to start looking for clues. Ulan, that is completely nonsensical. Scrutiny of ancient texts cannot provid...
- Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:44 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Wrestling With Greco-Roman Bio. Is GMark Greek Tragedy?
- Replies: 34
- Views: 46207
Re: Wrestling With Greco-Roman Bio. Is GMark Greek Tragedy?
Ironically, Paul's texts deal a whole lot with genitals and what to do with them.Blood wrote:I think I'm going to start translating 'gentile' after this suggestion.
But yeah, when I type on my smartphone, I always have to carefully check what it made out of what I typed.
- Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:37 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Tide Turns
- Replies: 63
- Views: 42301
Re: The Tide Turns
the Herakles saga lacks the historical anchor the gospels provide, Just so we are all on the same page here, what gospel provided "historical anchor" are you talking about? Is it the fact that historical figures such as Tiberius are named, or that christian preserved classical sources ref...
- Thu Oct 09, 2014 8:54 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Can Richard Carrier be trusted to write the truth?
- Replies: 161
- Views: 88558
Re: Can Richard Carrier be trusted to write the truth?
It's the same stupid argument as when someone mentions Christians it must mean that Christ was a historical person. As if anyone doubted that Christians exist.
- Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:20 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Tide Turns
- Replies: 63
- Views: 42301
Re: The Tide Turns
The current historicist position is that minimal that there's no real way to prove that Jesus didn't exist. ...we too look stupid when we seem entrenched in our certainties. In both cases it comes down to personal biases. Is that also the case for Herakles? Are you certain that it is impossible to ...