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- Mon May 08, 2023 10:08 pm
- Forum: Jewish Texts and History
- Topic: The Old Testament - A Hellenistic Book?
- Replies: 71
- Views: 6992
Re: The Old Testament - A Hellenistic Book?
...Often when I believe I am responding directly to a point of yours you respond that in some way I was misreading you. I know I do that sometimes, but rarely consistently with one person. I think it better that you post without any interaction from me. If I post it may be to respond to what I thin...
- Mon May 08, 2023 8:04 am
- Forum: Jewish Texts and History
- Topic: The Old Testament - A Hellenistic Book?
- Replies: 71
- Views: 6992
Re: The Old Testament - A Hellenistic Book?
The (almost) unique argument of Gmirkin is that these did not arise at any time prior to, or by any cultural route other than direct reading of Greek literature in the 3rd Century BCE . That is hardly the "unique (almost)" contribution of Gmirkin's works. The extent of the parallels raise...
- Mon May 08, 2023 8:04 am
- Forum: Jewish Texts and History
- Topic: The Old Testament - A Hellenistic Book?
- Replies: 71
- Views: 6992
Re: The Old Testament - A Hellenistic Book?
About the phrase above, "...Gmirkin the post-minimalist...." Though I agree a great deal (in posts here) with austendw (sometime "Diachronist"?), fwiw, R. E. Gmirkin wrote: "....I would identify my own position as post-Maximalist." https://bibleinterp.arizona.edu/artic...
- Mon May 08, 2023 7:47 am
- Forum: Jewish Texts and History
- Topic: The Problem With The Theory That the Pentateuch Was Written in Alexandria
- Replies: 161
- Views: 18620
Re: The Problem With The Theory That the Pentateuch Was Written in Alexandria
Are you suggesting that there was Greek influence in the Pentateuch and that it predates the Hellenistic era? You would not be alone. Some would argue the influence was in the reverse direction. Where does the "hard evidence", the "concrete" evidence, mostly point? [/quote[]Hard...
- Mon May 08, 2023 5:46 am
- Forum: Jewish Texts and History
- Topic: The Old Testament - A Hellenistic Book?
- Replies: 71
- Views: 6992
Re: The Old Testament - A Hellenistic Book?
The (almost) unique argument of Gmirkin is that these did not arise at any time prior to, or by any cultural route other than direct reading of Greek literature in the 3rd Century BCE . That is hardly the "unique (almost)" contribution of Gmirkin's works. The extent of the parallels raise...
- Mon May 08, 2023 5:38 am
- Forum: Jewish Texts and History
- Topic: The Old Testament - A Hellenistic Book?
- Replies: 71
- Views: 6992
Re: The Old Testament - A Hellenistic Book?
I would be very surprised if you could identify for me a single book or article by Lemche or Davies or Thompson or Whitelam that "ends up with broad generalizations" and any "demonization" of opponents or any "failure to engage with the actual issues". Have you read an...
- Mon May 08, 2023 4:28 am
- Forum: Jewish Texts and History
- Topic: The Problem With The Theory That the Pentateuch Was Written in Alexandria
- Replies: 161
- Views: 18620
Re: The Problem With The Theory That the Pentateuch Was Written in Alexandria
Just once more on that imaginary "chasm" that is now surfacing here as a criticism of G's "outlandishly implausible" "understanding" of the relevant ancient world, ..... of course there was "Greek influence" of some kind in the Syrian region prior to the Hell...
- Sun May 07, 2023 11:09 am
- Forum: Jewish Texts and History
- Topic: The Problem With The Theory That the Pentateuch Was Written in Alexandria
- Replies: 161
- Views: 18620
Re: The Problem With The Theory That the Pentateuch Was Written in Alexandria
Gmirkin's understanding of the ancient world, on the contrary, seems to view Eastern Mediterranean cultural "consanguinity" as outlandishly implausible. His approach to the material actually presupposes a sort of cultural chasm between Greece and the Levant (East is East, and West is West...
- Sun May 07, 2023 7:46 am
- Forum: Jewish Texts and History
- Topic: Diachronicity in the Pentateuch - The Drunkenness of Noah (Gen 9:18-27)
- Replies: 9
- Views: 18703
Diachronicity in the Pentateuch - The Drunkenness of Noah (Gen 9:18-27)
I’ve been banging on about diachronic approaches to the biblical text and many people think that I must mean the Documentary Hypothesis. But diachronic approaches don't have an inherent connection to that 19th Century theory, and particularly not to its absolute chronological scheme. In the traditio...
- Sun May 07, 2023 12:49 am
- Forum: Jewish Texts and History
- Topic: What Level of Proficiency in Hebrew Do You Have to Have to Pull off the Gmirkin Alexandrian Library Argument?
- Replies: 14
- Views: 1535
Re: What Level of Proficiency in Hebrew Do You Have to Have to Pull off the Gmirkin Alexandrian Library Argument?
Your quote from Whiston doesn't actually help the argument What or whose argument are you referring to? because, ironically, it too is an inaccurate translation - and "ancient" isn't in there either. This remark seems to reflect an inadequate understanding of how ancient texts are transla...